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Old 11-01-2005, 03:52 PM   #4366
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It's not an argument of credentials. (The Miers nomination is over, Penske.) It's an argument over their judicial philosophies. Saying that you don't agree with thier approach doesn't dumb down anything.
It certainly does when the debate consists of our philosophy good, the other philosophy=back room abortions and segretation. Your boys invented Borking, which has dumbed down the whole process. Y'all must be proud of exporting the dimwitticism of the Demo leadership. My side took the high road with both Breyer and Ginsburg.




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I never said that they were the same person. See above.
You implied. The stealth strategy of liberalism.

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We've had the poll discussions before. I even pointed you to citations about the polls, so that you could parse the language of the questions.
Yes, and my recollection while the polls showed a majority support some right to abortion, they also support regulation of partial birth abortion and parental notification and consent laws. Undoing Roe will allow the will of the people and the babyjesuschristsuperstar to be done.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:58 PM   #4367
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In my experience, that is way low. I'd say that you are in the 95th (or 5th, depending on one's perspective) percentile. I'd guess the average for women is about 15.
Selection bias--you're fucking the slutiest ones.

Surveys show the average is somewhere below 10, although the number is higher for men than women, which causes some to question the surveys' valididty.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:59 PM   #4368
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Sen. Mike DeWine, who met with President Bush's latest high court choice earlier Tuesday, warned Democrats he would side with GOP leaders to eliminate the judicial filibuster if the minority party uses it against the New Jersey judge.

DeWine is a Republican who was formerly one of the 7 RiNOs in the Gang of 14. Things are not looking good for the demos here. Odds are McCain and Lindsay Graham will be contrained to support the President and Frist will have the votes to go nucular. Woo hoo. And Chafee, Snowe and Collins can go fuck themselves or each other.

Meanwhile, Operation: Rescue declared that the country was on "the fast-track to derailing Roe v. Wade as the law of the land." Indeed.
He has 52 votes. If voted on again in the Spring of 2007, we will have only 49.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:00 PM   #4369
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Selection bias--you're fucking the slutiest ones.

Surveys show the average is somewhere below 10, although the number is higher for men than women, which causes some to question the surveys' valididty.

Translation: I am not below average damnit!!!
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:02 PM   #4370
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He has 52 votes. If voted on again in the Spring of 2007, we will have only 49.
2007 is speculative, but all we need to get Alito on is 51. Done. Deal. Break out the vintage Bolly (the only question is, the '95 or the '90 RD???)
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:02 PM   #4371
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Further, we went through polls on this a few weeks ago. The American people support laws that require parental consent and notification for minors seeking abortions. They also support regulation of partial birth abortions. Those are the cases that are coming that will erode Casey's and Roe's effect and, of course, employing the Ginsgburg strategy, Alito won't be able to comment on those cases.
Question: has any court held that partial birth abortion is unconstitutional in itself? As opposed to a holding that the statutes are either vague or overbroad (or both)?

And didn't casey uphold a parental consent provision, with a judicial bypass? Why is more needed?
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:04 PM   #4372
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He has 52 votes. If voted on again in the Spring of 2007, we will have only 49.
Out of curiousity - how are you getting this result?
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:04 PM   #4373
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Translation: I am not below average damnit!!!
Reverse translation: Even babyjesus loves mansluts like me.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:05 PM   #4374
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Out of curiousity - how are you getting this result?
Black magic?

55-3=52. And three Rs will lose their seats next Fall as a result of Bush's efforts on various fronts.

The number would be 51 if Specter didn't have a chairmanship to lose.
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Break out the vintage Bolly
That's French, you know.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:09 PM   #4376
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Selection bias--you're fucking the slutiest ones.

Surveys show the average is somewhere below 10, although the number is higher for men than women, which causes some to question the surveys' valididty.
I would like to see a breakdown of the results based on age and marital history. People who get married right out of high school (or even college) push the average low. Diane, I think, has never been married and is over 30.

ETA translation: I feel like a big ol' hoor.

Don't worry, I'll get over it.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:11 PM   #4377
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Question: has any court held that partial birth abortion is unconstitutional in itself? As opposed to a holding that the statutes are either vague or overbroad (or both)?

And didn't casey uphold a parental consent provision, with a judicial bypass? Why is more needed?
I assume you mean has the outlawing of partial-birth abortion been held constitutional (or, conversely, that partial-birth abortion is protected by the constitution).

I don't think so. I think when the statutes have been struck down it is for vagueness/overbroadness, as you state.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:13 PM   #4378
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That's French, you know.

Asked and answered.


eta: Is it a PLF coincidence that you were the asker?
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Perhaps Michigan would have gone for Bushie if Kerry elucidated the importance of the Supremes in protecting civil liberties then? Still shows that the point about the SUpremes wasn't driven home. Perhaps an ad about banning affirmative action (black town right?
I think, with the exception of the fact that, as Hank noted, America ain't ready to invite gay folk into the PTA and the potluck supper, the '04 election was more about the Islamic Peril than anything else.

I don't know that a greater emphasis in the Supremes would have made a difference. The issue was widely discussed among the people who care, on both sides of the political spectrum, and the big bulge in the middle just doesn't pay enough attention for it to matter.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:14 PM   #4380
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Perhaps Michigan would have gone for Bushie if Kerry elucidated the importance of the Supremes in protecting civil liberties then? Still shows that the point about the SUpremes wasn't driven home. Perhaps an ad about banning affirmative action (black town right?
Yes. a Kerry ad about how Bush will appoint judges who would ban AA would have gotten Bush votes, not Kerry.

I don't know how Abortion would tilt, I leave those polls to our resident intellectuals, Penske and Gattigap.
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