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Old 04-27-2005, 02:33 PM   #3496
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We already have laws making the use of steroids illegal. I don't get why the federal government has a legitimate interest in ensuring that professional athletes (in particular) don't use these drugs. The effects on sporting competition are just not the government's problem.
OK. I could give a shit . . . I was just throwing something out there in between emails figuring out lunch.
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:34 PM   #3497
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Can someone explain to me why Congress should be regulating steroid testing for professional sports?
they should tend to their own house first. I suspect there are some steroid abusers in the Congress.....



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Old 04-27-2005, 02:38 PM   #3499
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We already have laws making the use of steroids illegal. I don't get why the federal government has a legitimate interest in ensuring that professional athletes (in particular) don't use these drugs. The effects on sporting competition are just not the government's problem.
Actually, I don't think a lot of them are illegal. It's just against the rules to use them. HGH certainly isn't illegal. There may be some off-label uses of a lot of the drugs.

Someone in the state legislature earlier this session submitted a steroid testing bill for high school football programs. He sheepishly withdrew it when pressed on who was going to pay for it.
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:40 PM   #3500
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The effects on sporting competition are just not the government's problem.
I know Federal Baseball Club of Baltimore, Inc. v. National League of Prof値 Baseball Clubs is still "good" law, but, really, that argument's been made and lost. See also Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act.
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:43 PM   #3501
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He sheepishly withdrew it when pressed on who was going to pay for it.
Doesn't it depend critically on whether the Longhorns or the Aggies are getting more in-state recruits? I mean, wouldn't want to cut that pipeline.
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Doesn't it depend critically on whether the Longhorns or the Aggies are getting more in-state recruits? I mean, wouldn't want to cut that pipeline.
And they still can't beat the Sooners.
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I know Federal Baseball Club of Baltimore, Inc. v. National League of Prof値 Baseball Clubs is still "good" law, but, really, that argument's been made and lost. See also Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act.
I do not know these cases of which you speak, but I figured that I'd get some support from all the conservatives hereabouts who complain about how the liberals always think the solution to any problem is more government. If there's harm to sporting competition, why don't the leagues have the proper incentives to address it? Why is that something government should bother with?
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I do not know these cases of which you speak, but I figured that I'd get some support from all the conservatives hereabouts who complain about how the liberals always think the solution to any problem is more government. If there's harm to sporting competition, why don't the leagues have the proper incentives to address it? Why is that something government should bother with?
I blame FDR. Everything is susceptible of government control. And everything is susceptible of federal government control. At least with football etc. a single state couldn't regulate it, nor could a bunch of states, since they'd all have conflicting standards (well, they could, but . . .)

BTW, bear in mind that Waxman was making a lot of noise on this. It's hardly a pure Republican effort over Democrat dissent.
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I blame FDR. Everything is susceptible of government control. And everything is susceptible of federal government control. At least with football etc. a single state couldn't regulate it, nor could a bunch of states, since they'd all have conflicting standards (well, they could, but . . .)

BTW, bear in mind that Waxman was making a lot of noise on this. It's hardly a pure Republican effort over Democrat dissent.
So you agree that the federal government ought to drop it.

I blame Congress, or at least those congressmen and congresswomen who are behind this. FDR is, after all, dead.

And I didn't blame the GOP more than the Democrats. I'm not clear who is behind this. Although the GOP controls the agenda so tightly in the House that this is only happening if the GOP leadership backs it.
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:23 PM   #3509
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So you agree that the federal government ought to drop it.

I blame Congress, or at least those congressmen and congresswomen who are behind this. FDR is, after all, dead.
Yes, but there are a lot more grievous interferences with business and society they should stay out of. This ranks pretty low on the list of problems.

As for FDR, his legacy unfortunately lives on.
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Yes, but there are a lot more grievous interferences with business and society they should stay out of. This ranks pretty low on the list of problems.

As for FDR, his legacy unfortunately lives on.
I'm so confused. What is the legacy of FDR that you have a problem with? I (and most Americans) give him much credit for leading the country out of the Great Depression and winning World War II. I'm willing to overlook that he apparently inspired a crop of current Republicans to do some dumb things, since I don't think that FDR would have tried to subsidize drug companies with a prescription drug benefit, or played for headlines by requiring testing for steroids.
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