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Old 03-17-2005, 06:48 PM   #646
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... Yakuza (Japanese gangsters who are supposed to be tough)...
Supposed to be?

Have you never seen a Takashi Miike film? Beat Tikano?
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:01 PM   #647
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Hank is pretty sure those clubs were just created that way. It's a Shinto thing; you wouldn't understand.
Zen actually- What is the sound of one big meaty marine's hand clapping the head of a Japanese bouncer?
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:03 PM   #648
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Supposed to be?

Have you never seen a Takashi Miike film? Beat Tikano?
What the hell are you doing posting right now? I was told you were finding us a place to get Green Beer in the very very near future.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:08 PM   #649
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What the hell are you doing posting right now? I was told you were finding us a place to get Green Beer in the very very near future.
It'll be easy enough to find. Listen for the sound of heels on concrete, followed by the screams.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:11 PM   #650
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I think I know what you're saying, but I'm worried that someone will now read it as saying that the 4'9" woman can do the guard/prisoner-control job as well as the 6' guy, as long as we perceive her to be as able. 'Taint so. (Likewise for the 4'9" guy, of course.)
I would have thought that reading the rest of my post should have cleared up that concern.

As I noted, women and (non-huge) men would not be able to do the strip-club bouncer job as well as the huge men by definition -- because of the needs of the job -- which include the need to be sufficiently impressive to scare off challenges.

I would say that, IF the prisoners _thought_ a tiny woman was as intimidating as a large male guard, AND that particular woman was freakishly strong and/or otherwise able to actually perform just as well as a large male guard -- THEN she _could_ do the job as well.

Your post seemed directed to the absence of the first criteria -- whcih I agreed was important and legitimate.

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Old 03-17-2005, 07:14 PM   #651
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Taking a breather. See you in an hour.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:18 PM   #652
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Zen actually- What is the sound of one big meaty marine's hand clapping the head of a Japanese bouncer?
I remember going to a new club called Gas Panic III (don't even try to figure out how they name things in Tokyo) and I saw this Japanese bouncer walking up to a guy I knew was a SEAL. He was new in Japan, so I had just bought this guy two or three shots of tequila to make this American hero feel welcome in this strange land. He was in the "no guy" area talking to a very attractive Japanese girl, and you could tell it was just a matter of time before they were going home together (it was not very diffiult to pick up Japanese girls in Japan). The SEAL knew he was about to score and we all know that is when the male of the species is most dangerous. Being a veteran of the scene, I saw what was coming, and felt kind of responsible for what was about to happen because of the tequila shots (and teaching the Seal a few good lines in Japanese). While I was trying to make my way to the impending disaster, I saw the SEAL push the Japanese bouncer away, then the Japanes bouncer got in some Martial Art stance and threw a Karate punch at the SEAL that bounced of his back like a nickle hitting an Army Tank. The SEAL turned around, threw a right hook and I don't think the poor Japanese guy touched the ground for at least two yards. Five Japanese bouncers were laid out before me and two other Gaijin convinced him to leave the bar. Lambs to the slaughter.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:30 PM   #654
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I remember going to a new club called Gas Panic III (don't even try to figure out how they name things in Tokyo) and I saw this Japanese bouncer walking up to a guy I knew was a SEAL. He was new in Japan, so I had just bought this guy two or three shots of tequila to make this American hero feel welcome in this strange land. He was in the "no guy" area talking to a very attractive Japanese girl, and you could tell it was just a matter of time before they were going home together (it was not very diffiult to pick up Japanese girls in Japan). The SEAL knew he was about to score and we all know that is when the male of the species is most dangerous. Being a veteran of the scene, I saw what was coming, and felt kind of responsible for what was about to happen because of the tequila shots (and teaching the Seal a few good lines in Japanese). While I was trying to make my way to the impending disaster, I saw the SEAL push the Japanese bouncer away, then the Japanes bouncer got in some Martial Art stance and threw a Karate punch at the SEAL that bounced of his back like a nickle hitting an Army Tank. The SEAL turned around, threw a right hook and I don't think the poor Japanese guy touched the ground for at least two yards. Five Japanese bouncers were laid out before me and two other Gaijin convinced him to leave the bar. Lambs to the slaughter.
Why on earth didn't you make an effort to keep him out of the no-guy area? And why didn't the girl take him out of that area if she was so into him?
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:54 PM   #655
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Volokh goes hard core

Eugene Volokh is aurguing in favor of allowing victim's families to participate in the torture and killing of criminals, presumably ones that are sentenced to death.

Really.
  • I am being perfectly serious, by the way. I like civilization, but some forms of savagery deserve to be met not just with cold, bloodless justice but with the deliberate infliction of pain, with cruel vengeance rather than with supposed humaneness or squeamishness. I think it slights the burning injustice of the murders, and the pain of the families, to react in any other way.

    And, yes, I know this aligns me in this instance with the Iranian government — but even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and in this instance the Iranians are quite correct.

    UPDATE: I should mention that such a punishment would probably violate the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause. I'm not an expert on the history of the clause, but my point is that the punishment is proper because it's cruel (i.e., because it involves the deliberate infliction of pain as part of the punishment), so it may well be unconstitutional. I would therefore endorse amending the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause to expressly exclude punishment for some sorts of mass murders.

Me, I just think Eugene is just angling for one of those judgeships coming up.
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:51 PM   #656
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http://www.moroccotimes.com/news/article.asp?id=4815

Al-Azhar – The Vatican
Official apologies demanded

Morocco TIMES 3/17/2005 | 10:36 am


Egyptian highest religious authority Al-Azhar has requested the Vatican to present official apologies on Christian crusades carried out against Muslims seven centuries ago.

Sheikh Fawzi Zafzaf, President of the Interfaith Dialogue Committee of Al-Azhar, said during a press conference that his committee has sent a request to the Pope last February, demanding an official apology on Christian crusades against the Muslim world, following the example of the Jews.

The principle of demanding apology from the Vatican germinated following Pope Jean Paul II's visit to Syria and Egypt a few years ago, and the apologies the Catholic Church presented to the Jewish and some other Christian doctrines, explained Sheikh Zafzaf. “Al-Azhar is only asking for a similar treatment,” he added.

The Vatican's ambassador to Egypt has abstained from commenting, saying that Al-Azhar's request is now being considered by the Holy See.
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Me, I just think Eugene is just angling for one of those judgeships coming up.
No, Ty, this was the POTD.
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:50 AM   #658
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Why on earth didn't you make an effort to keep him out of the no-guy area? And why didn't the girl take him out of that area if she was so into him?
He was trying to boost his Libertarian Purity score.
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:54 AM   #659
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a new low

Just when you thought the Senate had already stooped to new lows of meaningless hearings called to use baseball players as an excuse for their own tv exposure, they now have called Terry Schiavo, yes the brain dead one, to testify before Congress.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...maged_woman_21

If I'm the husband, I'm sore tempted to wheel her into the hearing room, and let her "answer" all the questions. "I think my wife should answer that" "I would have to defer to my wife" "really, she should have the last word on that".
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Just when you thought the Senate had already stooped to new lows of meaningless hearings called to use baseball players as an excuse for their own tv exposure, they now have called Terry Schiavo, yes the brain dead one, to testify before Congress.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...maged_woman_21

If I'm the husband, I'm sore tempted to wheel her into the hearing room, and let her "answer" all the questions. "I think my wife should answer that" "I would have to defer to my wife" "really, she should have the last word on that".
I thought it was brilliant. They'd tried everything they could think of to stop the disconnect, and kept getting shot down. Now, they subpoena her for some unspecified future day of testimony, and federal law makes it a crime to interfere with the ability of the person to appear in response.
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