The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
More bilmore, from 10/06/03:

Wow! Aside from taking longer than I was thinking at the time (which I admitted in the post was a WAG), I was remarkably prescient. You should read my stuff with more respect!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton

Fine with me. Their graphics and schtick are far superior.

Don't worry Diane, you're safe. these guys won't really put you on ignore- if they did they wouldn't be able to know when to PM Ty and claim one of your posts was offensive and needed the old delete treatment.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
Wow! Aside from taking longer than I was thinking at the time (which I admitted in the post was a WAG), I was remarkably prescient. You should read my stuff with more respect!

Are the flowers in Syria, too?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Are the flowers in Syria, too?

The Baathist's party main goal was the unification of the Arab people. The Baathist party took over in Syria and Iraq and yet they were not even able to unite those two countrys. If the US invaded Syria and United it with Iraq the US would have done more for Arab nationalism than anyone including Nasser. I think we should do it.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
The Baathist's party main goal was the unification of the Arab people. The Baathist party took over in Syria and Iraq and yet they were not even able to unite those two countrys. If the US invaded Syria and United it with Iraq the US would have done more for Arab nationalism than anyone including Nasser. I think we should do it.

I have no doubt you do think that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I have no doubt you do think that.

if you understand his thinking so well, how come you're always not understanding his posts?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Anyhow, don't worry, you are pretty much on ignore in my book. Not b/c of your politics, but because you are unfunny and your logic sucks.

Fine with me. Their graphics and schtick are far superior.

If you prick me, do I not bleed?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Spanky
From what I remember the war went pretty quicky. We are now in the occupation phase and dealing with an insurgency. An insurgency that has only killed 2000 people in three years (seven hundred people a year). We have had way more than a 1,000 people killed every year in California (and we are having the lowest murder rate since 1965) and three times that many deaths on our highways every year in California and these deaths serve absolutely no purpose. We are losing .0032 percent of our population every year due to this war. With numbers that low it is amazing that anyone refers to it as a war.

Hint: 1. How many troops are in Iraq? 2. How many people live in California?

If it's so safe there, I'm surprised more Young Republicans and College Republicans aren't signing up.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by taxwonk
If you prick me, do I not bleed?

Dunno. We'll have to try. Step forward so that I may slay thee.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Dunno. We'll have to try. Step forward so that I may slay thee.

wear gloves and googles.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How do you explain the whole saga of the prescription drug benefit?

Heh. From a healthcare attorney ranting about medicare part D (and especially http://www.cms.hhs.gov/pdps on a relevant listserv:

Too bad that site has nothing on how this is all gonna effect the self administered drugs in the ED at 2am???????

Part D is going to be the biggest mass confusion in my 20 year history in healthcare. Even PPS wasn't as bad as this is going to be.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
It didn't even occur to me that you would refer to people other than people that were speaking on behalf of the Bush administration.

I wasn't doing the referring, Spanky, I was just reporting some of the predictions that SHP may have been referring to when you said "cite."

S_A_M

P.S. This is really a small point, but don't you think that Cheney speaks for the administration?

P.P.S. Wrt Rumsfeld's six days/weeks/months quote -- I recall that he was talking about the conventional war -- which had begun. He was exactly right. While the invasion of Iraq was risky for any number of reasons, no one had any doubt that we'd win the fight.

However, no one in power seems to have anticipated the unconventional war to follow. They even denied it was an insurgency for several months.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I wasn't doing the referring, Spanky, I was just reporting some of the predictions that SHP may have been referring to when you said "cite."

S_A_M

P.S. This is really a small point, but don't you think that Cheney speaks for the administration?

P.P.S. Wrt Rumsfeld's six days/weeks/months quote -- I recall that he was talking about the conventional war -- which had begun. He was exactly right. While the invasion of Iraq was risky for any number of reasons, no one had any doubt that we'd win the fight.

However, no one in power seems to have anticipated the unconventional war to follow. They even denied it was an insurgency for several months.

Hell, Rumsfeld doesn't even want to call it an insurgency now.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't get how you can take words from "members of the Iraqi exile community" or even some lower level people in the admin and attribute it to the President, by we can't take stuff from the Dem anti-war guys and attribute it to Dems generally.

Where did I do that, Hank?

SHP said he heard the predictions. Spanky says "cite". I sez, here are a few.

Its not ALL about Bush. Although the bastard did lie, and people died.



S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Hell, Rumsfeld doesn't even want to call it an insurgency now.

I liked this part. Thank God for a professional military with officers and senior enlisted generally inculcated with democratic ideals and a respect for human rights:

"At another point in their news conference, Rumsfeld and Pace [Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff], had an unusual exchange in which Rumsfeld corrected his senior military adviser, only to have Pace gently insist that it was the defense secretary who was wrong.

"A reporter asked Pace what U.S. commanders in Iraq are supposed to do if they find Iraqi forces abusing prisoners. Pace replied that if inhumane treatment is observed it is a service member's duty to stop it.

"'I don't think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it — it's to report it,' Rumsfeld said, turning to Pace.

"Replied the general: 'If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it.'"

S_A_M