Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
do you like Bork more now that he is clean shaven?

Am unfamiliar with his new image, but I imagine he's a real Haley Barbour.

[Southern Patriot]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Things I love about the left:

-Senator Landrieu publicly physically threatens the President of the United States, in violation of a federal statute, and no one from the left side of the spectrum has even the slightest bit of criticism. Query: If Bush were to hold a news conference and say, "And by the by, if that Mary Landrieu should happen to critisise me again, I am going to beat her chunky arse raw", would the leftists here demonstrate equivalent silence? Ty, Not_Bob, Weed, Gatti???!!?

-Prominent leftist gadfly Allan Dersh-bag-oshitz calls the Chief Justice of the United STates a "thug" on national TV within hours of the Chief's death. No comment from any leftists criticising this as classlessness. If Ruth Bader Ginsburg died and William F. Buckley got on TV and called her a "whore for subversive judicial activism" would the leftists here demonstrate equivalent silence? Ty, Not_Bob, Weed, Gatti???!!?

-going Dersh-bag-oshitz one further:

From yesterday's OpinionJournal Best o the Web

Over at DemocraticUnderground.com (hi Ty!), "Spazito" weighs in with a theory about Chief Justice Rehnquist's death:

Bet he died days ago and they are just announcing it now to try and take the heat off bush [sic]. One man has died, well guess what, thousands have died and more are still dying.

It was inevitable that someone would suggest this eventually. But Spazito did it at 11:10 p.m. EDT last night--four minutes after the announcement that Rehnquist had died!

The left in America truly has no shame.

Once again, my boy Penske has highlighted the sinful and mistaken ways of those Yankee liberals. It's good to see another soul who stands by America, who doesn't want to see Satanic race mixing, who stands by Godly men like Pat Robertson who seek to smote America's enemies, by assassination if necessary, and who supports everything Brother Falwell, Brother Robertson, and the rest of us on the right support.

[Spanky]

You state this:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have yet to see anyone on this board defend Nagin or Blanco. So maybe you could point me to those posts.

Right after you state this:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
what is it that you think the state of Louisiana could and should have been doing that it was not doing.

Does the above comment seem at all "defensive" to you?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Once again, my boy Penske has highlighted the sinful and mistaken ways of those Yankee liberals. It's good to see another soul who stands by America, who doesn't want to see Satanic race mixing, who stands by Godly men like Pat Robertson who seek to smote America's enemies, by assassination if necessary, and who supports everything Brother Falwell, Brother Robertson, and the rest of us on the right support.

You came back for this schtick?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It worked for Bush in 2004. If he is so incompetent why couldn't the Dems defeat him?

First, I'm talking about 2008. Who's livin' in the past, Penske?

Second, the visage of a smilin' Bush helps distract us when Cheney has to roam the streets for virgin blood, and it'll be more difficult to keep that up when Cheney's gladhanding in SuperTuesday states.

Third, if you want to actually run on the feds' response to Katrina as evidence of the GOP being The Party of Grownups Who Can Do Law And Order Shit And Get Things Done, then I welcome -- no, encourage -- you to do so.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Am unfamiliar with his new image, but I imagine he's a real Haley Barbour.

Whooooaaa, no. Haley looks like a man who enjoys a drink and some dirty jokes... He's a golfing and ginning republican who can probably barely hold down his bourbon vomit while pretending to pray before his waterhead constituents on Sunday. Bork, if you read any of his latest book, is a scary lunatic who wants to roll back your personal freedoms 10X further than the Patriot Act could ever imagine. Having read some of it, I can say, if bork were being eaten alive by wild babboons in front of me and I had an autmoatic weapon, I'd be constrained to save him... He's the sort of rare person who's so wrong and so loathesome that you feel a sense of relief when they publish his obit....

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Am unfamiliar with his new image, but I imagine he's a real Haley Barbour.

Its like the below, except without the faux-stache.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
I am not saying that they are. Although Texas has kept is state government pretty small regardless of its size. They also have a part time legislature.

hahahahahahahahaha

(sorry, wonking, will try to refrain from now on....)

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
You state this:



Right after you state this:



Does the above comment seem at all "defensive" to you?

It does to me.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
The qualification of the criticism is a tacit defence.

I will concede that I have not spent quite as much time watching the news, etc., in the last week as I normally do -- I did buy some really nice cabs in Napa Valley yesterday, though -- but I have not seen anything in the coverage suggested that Nagin or Blanco fucked up. I am entirely willing to believe it, but you and your photo-shopped images have zero credibility to me at this point -- Chicken Little is on line 2 -- so the case is, to my mind, unproven.

No one has even bothered to explain to me what Blanco failed to do that she could have done, except that nonono thinks she should have had a more masculine, steely determination on TV, which is entirely possible, but to me misses the point that in the first days after the city was flooded, what was really needed was water and helicopters and trucks and helicopters and food and helicopters and ice, and that the marooned residents of New Orleans probably weren't as interested in masculine, steely determination as nonono is on the grounds that they didn't have any electricity to power up their televisions, which were submerged anyhow, and therefore would have missed the tough words and big talk. I hope all y'all enjoyed that sentence as much as I did.

In any event, I care more about federal malfeasance (or nonfeasance) than I do about local or state mal- or nonfeasance, since the federal government is my government, too, while the state and local governments there are foreign bodies operating off the Napoleanic Code that we somehow inherited from France, NTTAWWT. And because I expect corruption and low performance from the municipal government of New Orleans specifically and any city which is 80% submerged generally. And because I live in the Bay Area, and when the Big One hits, I'm expected DHS and the feds to save my ass, not the state of Louisiana. And because the federal government has the big checkbook and the big helicopters, and, in my experience, the more competent and professional employees, at least relative to state government.

Meanwhile, I note that you are still denying your deep and passionate liberal feelings. Stop tormenting yourself. Come over to the side of Good. We are your paternalistic authority figures.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Gattigap
First, I'm talking about 2008. Who's livin' in the past, Penske?

to paraphrase, those who choose to be wilfully ignorant of the past are doomed to lose again and again.

Originally posted by Gattigap


Second, the visage of a smilin' Bush helps distract us when Cheney has to roam the streets for virgin blood, and it'll be more difficult to keep that up when Cheney's gladhanding in SuperTuesday states.

I don't think Cheney can win the GOP nomination, but your comment above is really below worthiness for any further response.

Originally posted by Gattigap


Third, if you want to actually run on the feds' response to Katrina as evidence of the GOP being The Party of Grownups Who Can Do Law And Order Shit And Get Things Done, then I welcome -- no, encourage -- you to do so.

Depends, objectively it is not a strategy, in comparison to the Dems, it would be an obvious winner to the Red States of America.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Does the above comment seem at all "defensive" to you?

No. While you have your mind made up and do not need any more facts, I keep explaining that I do not have enough of the latter and have not done the former. Like Gatti, I am willing to agree that Kathleen Blanco should be shot, and then tied down and forced to watch every one of Sean Penn's movies, if only someone would tell me what it is that she did wrong. In other words, sometimes a question is a question.

[Spanky]

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have yet to see anyone on this board defend Nagin or Blanco. So maybe you could point me to those posts.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have not seen anything in the coverage suggested that Nagin or Blanco fucked up. ....
No one has even bothered to explain to me what Blanco failed to do that she could have done, except that nonono thinks she should have had a more masculine, steely determination on TV, which is entirely possible,

Contradiction?

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop but to me misses the point that in the first days after the city was flooded, what was really needed was water and helicopters and trucks and helicopters and food and helicopters and ice,

She is in charge of the National Guard until it is federalized by the President. The national guard has all the stuff you are citing above. You said earlier why was Bush trying to take charge of the state resource? - then just above you point out that the state resources were not being used. But Bush trying to take charge of state resources was purely just a political move. But how could that be if there were not state resources for her to use?

Bottom line.

She had lot of resources that she did not effectively apply to the situation.

You have been defending her all along so don't try and pretend you have not.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account


I don't think Cheney can win the GOP nomination, but your comment above is really below worthiness for any further response.

Awwww. What if I coupled it with a posting of a nice image? Would that do the trick?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I will concede that I have not spent quite as much time watching the news, etc., in the last week as I normally do -- I did buy some really nice cabs in Napa Valley yesterday, though -- but I have not seen anything in the coverage suggested that Nagin or Blanco fucked up. I am entirely willing to believe it, but you and your photo-shopped images have zero credibility to me at this point -- Chicken Little is on line 2 -- so the case is, to my mind, unproven.

the pictures of the submerged buses speak for themselves. The plan put into place after Hugo speaks for itself. Why do deny this? Common sense says, start evacuating in mass using public trasnport, i.e. buses, on Saturday before the hurricance hits. If uou are worng you have expended the cost of excess preparedness. You bring everyone home. Why do you fight this?

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

No one has even bothered to explain to me what Blanco failed to do that she could have done, except that nonono thinks she should have had a more masculine, steely determination on TV, which is entirely possible, but to me misses the point that in the first days after the city was flooded, what was really needed was water and helicopters and trucks and helicopters and food and helicopters and ice, and that the marooned residents of New Orleans probably weren't as interested in masculine, steely determination as nonono is on the grounds that they didn't have any electricity to power up their televisions, which were submerged anyhow, and therefore would have missed the tough words and big talk. I hope all y'all enjoyed that sentence as much as I did.

She didn't lead, she followed and she looked for an out (she also refused to work with both th eFeds and Nagin), that is not what we elect or pay leaders to do.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop


In any event, I care more about federal malfeasance (or nonfeasance) than I do about local or state mal- or nonfeasance, since the federal government is my government, too, while the state and local governments there are foreign bodies operating off the Napoleanic Code that we somehow inherited from France, NTTAWWT. And because I expect corruption and low performance from the municipal government of New Orleans specifically and any city which is 80% submerged generally. And because I live in the Bay Area, and when the Big One hits, I'm expected DHS and the feds to save my ass, not the state of Louisiana. And because the federal government has the big checkbook and the big helicopters, and, in my experience, the more competent and professional employees, at least relative to state government.

the problem with this is each of our individual states are the frontline of defence and public safety and no matter how much you want to transfer their responsibilitry to the Feds, it ain't what's in place now and it ain't likely to be in place when the big one hits. And your rationale still does not absolve the state and local govts in LA for what happened that set up the Feds hand.