The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

[Raggedy Ann Coulter]

Originally posted by Spanky
Wouldn't the Lesbian daughter recommend he skip the shole suit and wear a lumberjack shirt?

Lamar Alexander had a lesbo daughter?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Why haven't any of the ostensible supporters of free speech in Europe gotten all hot and bothered about this?

• Tony Blair's controversial plan for a new law to stop people "glorifying" terrorism has been backed by MPs. . . .
  
  Reacting to the vote, Mr Blair said Parliament had shown it wanted to tackle not only those directly committing terrorist acts but also people who encouraged terrorism.
  
  The prime minister said the law would allow action to be taken against people with placards glorifying the 7 July bombers - which were seen in London during protests against cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad. . . .
  
  Home Secretary Charles Clarke said the glorification clause was needed to act against organisations which tried to promote terrorism and created an atmosphere where impressionable young men thought suicide bombings were a "noble and holy activity".

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why haven't any of the ostensible supporters of free speech in Europe gotten all hot and bothered about this?

• Tony Blair's controversial plan for a new law to stop people "glorifying" terrorism has been backed by MPs. . . .
  
  Reacting to the vote, Mr Blair said Parliament had shown it wanted to tackle not only those directly committing terrorist acts but also people who encouraged terrorism.
  
  The prime minister said the law would allow action to be taken against people with placards glorifying the 7 July bombers - which were seen in London during protests against cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad. . . .
  
  Home Secretary Charles Clarke said the glorification clause was needed to act against organisations which tried to promote terrorism and created an atmosphere where impressionable young men thought suicide bombings were a "noble and holy activity".

I would deport them- although that would mean we'd have to deport such higher up Dems as Mikey Moore, so the vote wouldn't be there

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why haven't any of the ostensible supporters of free speech in Europe gotten all hot and bothered about this?

• Tony Blair's controversial plan for a new law to stop people "glorifying" terrorism has been backed by MPs. . . .
  
  Reacting to the vote, Mr Blair said Parliament had shown it wanted to tackle not only those directly committing terrorist acts but also people who encouraged terrorism.
  
  The prime minister said the law would allow action to be taken against people with placards glorifying the 7 July bombers - which were seen in London during protests against cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad. . . .
  
  Home Secretary Charles Clarke said the glorification clause was needed to act against organisations which tried to promote terrorism and created an atmosphere where impressionable young men thought suicide bombings were a "noble and holy activity".

I don't know. But if you think that praising the London subway bombings is the moral equivalent of publishing a cartoon showing Mohammad with a bomb on his head, I am very concerned.

Personally, I'm happy to let people wear those shirts. Maybe with a nice bullseye on the back.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I don't know. But if you think that praising the London subway bombings is the moral equivalent of publishing a cartoon showing Mohammad with a bomb on his head, I am very concerned.

Personally, I'm happy to let people wear those shirts. Maybe with a nice bullseye on the back.

And like *that*, support for the principle of free speech turns into support for speech we agree with.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
If you think what Sebby said was "on the border of being offensive", then you must think what Less said most certainly crossed the border. Aren't you going to ask Less "to cut it out"?

On the other hand, isn't asking someone to stop saying something because it is offensive a little absurd on an anonymous political discussion board?

Good Lord, Spanky!

He was joking. You may be the most literal-minded intelligent person with whom I have ever come into contact.

S_A_M

[Replaced_Texan]

This is sort of scary. Softer, gentler basic training. The comments, I think, are the most interesting part.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

The NYTimes rejected my Oped observation piece on watcching the King funeral... fucking partisan swine...

Bush 41 served up some icy, phoned in bullshit, but he gets a pass because he's old, and no one speaks ill of smiling elderly patricians. For reasons I don't understand, it seems mean, despite the stories of Carlyle Group white slave camps in Madagascar (who else would affix the plastic to those wire bread bag ties?). Its only a matter of time until he's deemed too old, or knowing too much, and treated to a faceful of scattershot from Dick. It would be wrong to rip the soon-to-be-hunted.

"Use the 10 guage. Removes the tongue."

Carter could only have embarrassed himself more by passing gas audibly during his speech. No one likes an old scold, and worse, an old scold with the stink of failure and incompetence trailing him like a cloud of body odor. Its one thing to hear an aging hippie wax nostalgic for the lost promise of an absurd utopia. From a decrepit peanut farmer who slid in and out of power like some dim VP thrown into the CEO's suite after a plane crash killed every other executive, it sounds flat, angry and insulting to the dead body in the casket in front of him. Jimmy Carter was our Disco President, and he stands for nothing but proving the Peter Principle. He reminds me of gas lines, middle parts and Grand Funk Railroad. His sole redeeming feature was his opening campaign act - the Allman Brothers. But even that was wrong on many levels. That Dickie Betts blackjacked his wife purple with an ashtray in a White House restroom during a state dinner where Roberta Flack received the Congressional Medal of Freedom doesn't speak well for the Republic. But back to the meat of it, Carter made an ass of himself, and a case that he might be the least qualified of the Presidents there that day.

Clinton, of course, stung a triple into the right field wall. The "frozen chosen" line was perfect, and the camera perfectly flipped to a shot of Bush 43, shit eating red faced grin, at the moment of its delivery. You could see the wheels turning... "Heh, I think I fucked an Oriental chick here in 1974... or was that Miami?" Off the cuff, Bubba grabbed the room by the short hairs, and showed everyone how its done. This led to the low point of the night - Hillary. To say she shit the bed would be kind. Where Bill exuded enough heat to warm the first three rows, the Ice Queen came off rigid, scripted and every bit as soulless, measured, conniving and deliberate as you know she is. The Democrats launching that lead zeppelin will spell the end of the two party system. They'll find her molesting an unconscious aide in the bowels of her campaign headquarters on election night, bloody fangs dripping chunks of torn adipose tissue, bleating gibberish... "They want cock? They need cock? Cock, cock, cock... God screwed me..."

Mondale 2008. An "I will be avenged" concession, coupled with Hitler arm-chops will turn back the women's rights movement 50 years. The only question is which Republican gets to beat her into a bloody slab of flank steak.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
And like *that*, support for the principle of free speech turns into support for speech we agree with.

I thought you were asking about the "European free speech advocates," not about my personal views. My personal view would not preclude people from wearing offensive t-shirts.

But I guess you're right. If Germany is going to make denying the Holocaust a crime, they certainly cannot allow people to print pictures of Muhammad.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The NYTimes rejected my Oped observation piece on watcching the King funeral... fucking partisan swine...

Bush 41 served up some icy, phoned in bullshit, but he gets a pass because he's old, and no one speaks ill of smiling elderly patricians. For reasons I don't understand, it seems mean, despite the stories of Carlyle Group white slave camps in Madagascar (who else would affix the plastic to those wire bread bag ties?). Its only a matter of time until he's deemed too old, or knowing too much, and treated to a faceful of scattershot from Dick. It would be wrong to rip the soon-to-be-hunted.

"Use the 10 guage. Removes the tongue."

Carter could only have embarrassed himself more by passing gas audibly during his speech. No one likes an old scold, and worse, an old scold with the stink of failure and incompetence trailing him like a cloud of body odor. Its one thing to hear an aging hippie wax nostalgic for the lost promise of an absurd utopia. From a decrepit peanut farmer who slid in and out of power like some dim VP thrown into the CEO's suite after a plane crash killed every other executive, it sounds flat, angry and insulting to the dead body in the casket in front of him. Jimmy Carter was our Disco President, and he stands for nothing but proving the Peter Principle. He reminds me of gas lines, middle parts and Grand Funk Railroad. His sole redeeming feature was his opening campaign act - the Allman Brothers. But even that was wrong on many levels. That Dickie Betts blackjacked his wife purple with an ashtray in a White House restroom during a state dinner where Roberta Flack received the Congressional Medal of Freedom doesn't speak well for the Republic. But back to the meat of it, Carter made an ass of himself, and a case that he might be the least qualified of the Presidents there that day.

Clinton, of course, stung a triple into the right field wall. The "frozen chosen" line was perfect, and the camera perfectly flipped to a shot of Bush 43, shit eating red faced grin, at the moment of its delivery. You could see the wheels turning... "Heh, I think I fucked an Oriental chick here in 1974... or was that Miami?" Off the cuff, Bubba grabbed the room by the short hairs, and showed everyone how its done. This led to the low point of the night - Hillary. To say she shit the bed would be kind. Where Bill exuded enough heat to warm the first three rows, the Ice Queen came off rigid, scripted and every bit as soulless, measured, conniving and deliberate as you know she is. The Democrats launching that lead zeppelin will spell the end of the two party system. They'll find her molesting an unconscious aide in the bowels of her campaign headquarters on election night, bloody fangs dripping chunks of torn adipose tissue, bleating gibberish... "They want cock? They need cock? Cock, cock, cock... God screwed me..."

Mondale 2008. An "I will be avenged" concession, coupled with Hitler arm-chops will turn back the women's rights movement 50 years. The only question is which Republican gets to beat her into a bloody slab of flank steak.

Too bad someone had to die to set up this little political spectacle.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I thought you were asking about the "European free speech advocates," not about my personal views. My personal view would not preclude people from wearing offensive t-shirts.

But I guess you're right. If Germany is going to make denying the Holocaust a crime, they certainly cannot allow people to print pictures of Muhammad.

My bad. When I referred to "the ostensible supporters of free speech in Europe," I was talking about free speech in Europe, and its ostensible supporters here. You know -- all the people who got so exercised about the importance of Danish cartoons in the marketplace of ideas. They don't seem to care that England is passing a law banning expression of certain ideas.

[original Hank@judged.com]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Jimmy Carter was our Disco President, and he stands for nothing but proving the Peter Principle.

I remember as kid one of my favorite disco hits was "love to love you baby". That and Bee Gees, but in in 1979 my dad took me to the Disco Demoliton Twi-Night doubleheader in Chicago. Sox versus Detroit. we needed disco records to burn to get entry. my dad took my Saturday Night Fever album and burned it. the night ended in a near riot with fights and worse. i couldnt listen to disco after that.

same with Carter after the "killer rabbit" incident.

Wonk, you at that game too?

[original Hank@judged.com]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
My bad. When I referred to "the ostensible supporters of free speech in Europe," I was talking about free speech in Europe, and its ostensible supporters here. You know -- all the people who got so exercised about the importance of Danish cartoons in the marketplace of ideas. They don't seem to care that England is passing a law banning expression of certain ideas.

the democrats were concerned about Sadamm and WMDs before 2001, but after Bush, not so much-they now claim he never had them. where's the bigger inconsistency?

[Raggedy Ann Coulter]

Originally posted by original Hank@judged.com
the democrats were concerned about Sadamm and WMDs before 2001, but after Bush, not so much-they now claim he never had them. where's the bigger inconsistency?

The bigger inconsistency is Hillary Rodham daring to point a finger at Cheney, with a straight face, for not timely coming forward about the hunting accident, when last I recall the black pant-suited bitch was still hiding those Rose Law Firm billing records and Webb Hubbell's love letters.

[original Hank@judged.com]

Originally posted by Raggedy Ann Coulter
The bigger inconsistency is Hillary Rodham daring to point a finger at Cheney, with a straight face, for not timely coming forward about the hunting accident, when last I recall the black pant-suited bitch was still hiding those Rose Law Firm billing records and Webb Hubbell's love letters.

Vince Foster was in season at the time of his shooting, right?