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Old 09-03-2005, 07:43 PM   #3481
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I can't fucking believe that everyone's reaction to this tragic disaster is to cast blame, and it's not just on these boards. Everywhere I go people are arguing about who is to blame. It's fucking sickening how politicized and pathetic this nation has become, when our first reaction to the worst natural disaster in US history is to argue about who's fault it was.

That's all. Carry on.
I agree. I am having a party tonight and the first liberal fucker who casts blame is going to get blamed for dividing our nation in time of collective tragedy. And they will also get pours out of the cheap wine bottle.

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Old 09-03-2005, 07:47 PM   #3482
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I can't fucking believe that everyone's reaction to this tragic disaster is to cast blame, and it's not just on these boards. Everywhere I go people are arguing about who is to blame. It's fucking sickening how politicized and pathetic this nation has become, when our first reaction to the worst natural disaster in US history is to argue about who's fault it was.

That's all. Carry on.
I didn't see much of that the first few days. It was only when it became clear that the federal relief effort was not getting it done that people began to lose it. I mean, the people who lost everything in New Orleans -- that's a tragedy. But the people who are still there, living on highway overpasses, and haven't eaten since Sunday -- that's just so beyond wrong.
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Old 09-03-2005, 07:48 PM   #3483
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Two comments:

1. It's sad that someone who is talented and a role model of someone who perservered to find success (notwithstanding the racism that acknowledgely exists in America) couldn't use the occassion and the forum to try to bridge the gap that exists and inspire people black, white, rich or poor to help their neighbour. The fact that racism exists (although I should note I don't think Bush is a racist) shouldn't be a rationale to perpetuate the divide. Really sad.

2. NBC's cya is nice, but the cynic in me says, someone's business manager and record company made some frantically pleading calls prior to NBC redacting the west coast feed. Especially since someone has a new album now.

3. I'll still buy his album He got a dope beat that I can shake my bootie to!!! Word!
I do not know this West fellow's music, but if you recommend them perhaps I should give them a listen.

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Old 09-03-2005, 08:33 PM   #3484
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I do not know this West fellow's music, but if you recommend them perhaps I should give them a listen.

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You probably know some of his songs, between producing and his debut album he is ubiquitous in the hip hop/pop crossover genre. His big hit of last year which he performed on just about every awards show that has music, but the Oscars and the Tonys, was "Jesus Walks". I am uncertain if he meant the 33 yo Jesus or the baby varietal.

He also produced Common's latest album, Be, which is very good.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:49 PM   #3485
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I didn't see much of that the first few days. It was only when it became clear that the federal relief effort was not getting it done that people began to lose it. I mean, the people who lost everything in New Orleans -- that's a tragedy. But the people who are still there, living on highway overpasses, and haven't eaten since Sunday -- that's just so beyond wrong.
Where's the UN in all this? When a country isn't able to take care of its people, isn't the UN supposed to solve the crisis?
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Old 09-03-2005, 09:02 PM   #3486
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Where's the UN in all this? When a country isn't able to take care of its people, isn't the UN supposed to solve the crisis?
I heard on the radio that we're taking aid from about 20 other countries.
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I heard on the radio that we're taking aid from about 20 other countries.
Which is not to say the UN, though, right? Not that I think it's the UN's role for us, but just saying.
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Old 09-04-2005, 12:24 AM   #3488
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Old 09-04-2005, 12:34 AM   #3489
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Which is not to say the UN, though, right? Not that I think it's the UN's role for us, but just saying.
Yesterday, offers of help were "reiterated."

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...rina&Cr1=Annan

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Rehnquist died. We are ready for a plunge into anarchy.
I never thought I'd be so sad to see him go. I will miss him. *sniff*
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Old 09-04-2005, 12:49 AM   #3491
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It appears that Bush does not want to accept the offers of help from the UN, at least as of yesterday, when offers of help were "reiterated."

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...rina&Cr1=Annan
I didn't see in that story where we had refused the help, though I daresay there would be criticism either way.

eta: I appreciate Annan's acknowledgement that the U.S. has always been the most generous in giving aid to others.
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I never thought I'd be so sad to see him go. I will miss him. *sniff*
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Look, I know what you're thinking, but I didn't have anything to do with it. You've got nothing on me. Hang it off your nose, coppers.

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I didn't see in that story where we had refused the help, though I daresay there would be criticism either way.

eta: I appreciate Annan's acknowledgement that the U.S. has always been the most generous in giving aid to others.
I edited to remove political bent. I would think if offer of help accepted, no need for reiteration, would instead be saying "starting process of working together" or something, but whatever. I really highly highly doubt that the UN is going to say "screw you, United
States." Don't bite hand, etc.
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I edited to remove political bent. I would think if offer of help accepted, no need for reiteration, would instead be saying "starting process of working together" or something, but whatever. I really highly highly doubt that the UN is going to say "screw you, United
States." Don't bite hand, etc.
Hey, is it fair to edit to remove whole thrust of post? Yes, agree, UN had to make at least a token offer. Which, frankly, we may need, if not cash, at least persons. But we're a bit proud for that.
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