The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Fuck him. Ran a nasty campaign and lost, in a GOP state.

"In a GOP state", maybe, but replacing a Dem governor. Everyone acts like this is a reversal. This was the status quo. People elect governors, presidents, and school board members for different reasons. There, they elect dem governors.

But, eff' em', also, for that crim def comment.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Well, Hank, Penske and I have great admiration for these few brave souls. If only the rest of the French thought like them.

Hank and Penske have never said anything that would lead me to the conclusion that they are racists. They are probably against affirmative action (or at least the brand of affirmative action that embraces preferences and quotas) but so am I. They are also not socialists. My guess is Hank and Penske don't like Le Pen much either.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky

You're alive! I was worried that you were in an alley somewhere, unconscious after spending two days and nights eviscertating the memory of the special election debacle with a bottle Patron in one hand and a bible in the other in some dive bar on Camino Real.

Are you still taking Ah-nold's calls?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Big wins yesterday might have given us a false sense of security with perhaps thin support.

Lipstick. Pig. It would have been nice to win. Just unrealistic to expect it.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Well, Hank, Penske and I have great admiration for these few brave souls. If only the rest of the French thought like them.

You all miss the point. i don't care if we neutron bomb their next convention- I don't care if we nuke the whole country. I like Oregon wine better than French- I like Italian wine even better. But I like that there media admits it controls it's content to meet its whims and political beliefs.

In a real model the media should simply report all and let us reach the conclusion the far right is bad.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Spanky
The problem with the "far right" in France is they are just bigots. They are against free trade so they are a complete nightmare. They are social conservative, racist, socialists. Le Pen represents everything I detest.

This differs from a description of the far right in the U.S. how? Other than the funny surname, that is. Unless "Le Pen" is french for "The Bush"

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
"In a GOP state", maybe, but replacing a Dem governor. Everyone acts like this is a reversal. This was the status quo. People elect governors, presidents, and school board members for different reasons. There, they elect dem governors.

Generally agree, but note that VA has two GOP Senators, a majority GOP House reps from the state, and (I think a majority GOP in the state legislature.) Kaine was undoubtedly helped by a popular outgoing governor, but in a state like VA, having a Democratic politician elected is not that easily done.

But, eff' em', also, for that crim def comment.

Yup.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
John Kerry thought we should seek France's approval for defending ourselves. Anyone see a fault in that thinking based upon the past few weeks?

Partially. Chirac still stands by his main principle, which is "it's our responsibility to welcome them into our society and make them a part of us, and we've fucked that up royally." I saw his weasely utterances for a bit as . . . well, . . . weasely - but really, I've sort of been impressed that he's not called out the army and steamrolled the immigrant cities. He's stuck to his main thesis well. Have to admire that. In the long run, more cars will burn, but I think he leaves a greater chance of repproachement.

I just made up that word, as I can't remember the correct spelling.

[sgtclub]

• Jordanians flooded Amman blaring car horns and waving the nation's flag to protest the suicide attacks at three hotels with Western connections.
  
  Hundreds of angry Jordanians rallied, shouting, "Burn in hell, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi!" after the claim of responsibility was posted.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...sts/index.html

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
We are the pit bulls on the pantleg of opportunity!

I'm saving this as a file in Word. It's beautiful.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I object to the explicit assumption in the article that the Supreme Being is God. My Pastafarian beliefs are being oppressed in favor of the notion that this God, who is somehow 3 parts in one whole, but each whole is somehow complete, whatever that means, sent one of his parts down to earth to take the form of a human being born in - get this - a "virgin birth", who later was miraculously resurrected in complete health after dying an agonizing death on a slab of wood, and then conveniently was whisked off this mortal coil before the truth of all this could be established. Somehow a lot of people buy into this story. And they dare to laugh at the idea of a Flying Spaghetti Monster?

I went Rasta once I realized that gawd loves THC. Apparently, so did you.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Generally agree, but note that VA has two GOP Senators, a majority GOP House reps from the state, and (I think a majority GOP in the state legislature.) Kaine was undoubtedly helped by a popular outgoing governor, but in a state like VA, having a Democratic politician elected is not that easily done.

Here in MN, we're solidly Dem. Historically Dem. Traditionally Dem. Roundly, solidly, ovwewhelmingly Dem.

Yet we have a R guv, and an R senator.

I think most of the sheep vote for personality, and the appearance of honor, and the deservedness of trust.

Can't say I can fault that.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Hank and Penske have never said anything that would lead me to the conclusion that they are racists. They are probably against affirmative action (or at least the brand of affirmative action that embraces preferences and quotas) but so am I. They are also not socialists. My guess is Hank and Penske don't like Le Pen much either.

I once had a sock called, "Le Pen is mightier than the Sword" or something like that, but you are correct, I don't like Le Pen. Frankly, I can't think of a French politician in the history of history that I like much. After the wine and cheese it's a quick plummet down hill for me and the french.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't like Le Pen.

DA question: Is it racist to suggest that an insular society might be damaged by free immigration? Is it racist to suggest that Europe needs to limit immigration from North African Islamic societys, on the basis that these societys share so few common grounds with your own group that they cannot, and never will, mix well? Do you owe any opportunity to those outside of your state who are seeking to enter but who will, you suspect, impact your society negatively?

Is it morally okay to say, we know what these people believe and we just don't like them?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by bilmore
DA question: Is it racist to suggest that an insular society might be damaged by free immigration? Is it racist to suggest that Europe needs to limit immigration from North African Islamic societys, on the basis that these societys share so few common grounds with your own group that they cannot, and never will, mix well? Do you owe any opportunity to those outside of your state who are seeking to enter but who will, you suspect, impact your society negatively?

Is it morally okay to say, we know what these people believe and we just don't like them?

doesn't race have to have some immutable characteristic about it? Isn't religion a choice? (except of course for the radical-moderate Islamic religion, the adherents of which do not want to give the rest of us a choice, other than Allah or death)