Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
This post shows a massive disregard for the facts. In 96 or so we caught an al queda guy with plans for 9/11 on his computer. Response? Nada.

Bush should have done what after the memo of 8/6? Revamped airline security? The democratic congress took a year to approve that AFTER 9/11.

The breakdown in intelligence sharing is what prevented 9/11 from being stopped.

When you say "breakdown" you mean the barrier intentionally erected by Hillary's flack, Jamie Gorelick, who when scaled a mountainous conflict of interest to sit on the 911 Commission and cover up her (and by association the Clintons') complicity in 911???

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
When you say "breakdown" you mean the barrier intentionally erected by Hillary's flack, Jamie Gorelick, who when scaled a mountainous conflict of interest to sit on the 911 Commission and cover up her (and by association the Clintons') complicity in 911???

You may remember you were not invited to the new Spank board. It would be nice if you remember that, and realize why. Spank. Does. Not. Like. You.

maybe try not to post here when he shows up, please.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You may remember you were not invited to the new Spank board. It would be nice if you remember that, and realize why. Spank. Does. Not. Like. You.

maybe try not to post here when he shows up, please.

Is this because I stole NFH away from you?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
When you say "breakdown" you mean the barrier intentionally erected by Hillary's flack, Jamie Gorelick, who when scaled a mountainous conflict of interest to sit on the 911 Commission and cover up her (and by association the Clintons') complicity in 911???

There's something to be said, I suppose, for the doggedness reflected in blind repetition, but keep in mind that you run the risk of losing your audience when you repeat horseshit like this.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
There's something to be said, I suppose, for the doggedness reflected in blind repetition, but keep in mind that you run the risk of losing your audience when you repeat horseshit like this.

Putting aside blame of Clinton, or a wall, do you agree that with hindsight the intel community should have stopped 9/11 sometime prior to 1/1/2000?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Putting aside blame of Clinton, or a wall, do you agree that with hindsight the intel community should have stopped 9/11 sometime prior to 1/1/2000?

I'm not sure what you mean here. Divorced from everything else, sure, the intel community should've stopped 9/11, just as they should've been less mind-bogglingly wrong about WMD in Iraq, and tons of other items over the last 40 or so years that the benefit of hindsight casts into sharp relief. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but I don't get why this is a particularly fruitful conversation, at least as you've casted it.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Gattigap
There's something to be said, I suppose, for the doggedness reflected in blind repetition, but keep in mind that you run the risk of losing your audience when you repeat horseshit like this.

The liberals dogged refusal to accept any responsibility for the dereliction of duty and ommissions during the Clinton administration is shocking.

In fairness I think every administration since Nixon's (including but not limited to Reagan's) takes some of the blame for the growth of the Islamic terrorist movement and our appeasement of the same, but Clinton's gets a special place because he sat on his hands (or at least kept them firmly placed on the back of Monica's head, until the point where he had to jerk off in the sink) while the various adherents of Islam coalesced into al Qaeda in preparation for 911.

Imagine everything else stays the same up until 911, except that Bush was President from 1993-2000 and tell me you and Ty and NPR wouldn't be laying plenty of blame at his feet???

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I'm not sure what you mean here. Divorced from everything else, sure, the intel community should've stopped 9/11, just as they should've been less mind-bogglingly wrong about WMD in Iraq, and tons of other items over the last 40 or so years that the benefit of hindsight casts into sharp relief. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but I don't get why this is a particularly fruitful conversation, at least as you've casted it.

The intelligence community KNEW Atta was al queda and in this country. They KNEW al Queda was going to attack our buildings with planes. They just weren't allowed to do anything with the knowledge. See?

Its not like Iraq at all.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Putting aside blame of Clinton, or a wall, do you agree that with hindsight the intel community should have stopped 9/11 sometime prior to 1/1/2000?

Yes.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
The liberals dogged refusal to accept any responsibility for the dereliction of duty and ommissions during the Clinton administration is shocking.

In fairness I think every administration since Nixon's (including but not limited to Reagan's) takes some of the blame for the growth of the Islamic terrorist movement and our appeasement of the same, but Clinton's gets a special place because he sat on his hands (or at least kept them firmly placed on the back of Monica's head, until the point where he had to jerk off in the sink) while the various adherents of Islam coalesced into al Qaeda in preparation for 911.

Imagine everything else stays the same up until 911, except that Bush was President from 1993-2000 and tell me you and Ty and NPR wouldn't be laying plenty of blame at his feet???

See, you and I agree that multiple administrations share blame for 9/11. It's when you start to write the stuff bolded above that I lose interest and stop reading what you write. Pity, that.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The intelligence community KNEW Atta was al queda and in this country. They KNEW al Queda was going to attack our buildings with planes. They just weren't allowed to do anything with the knowledge. See?

Its not like Iraq at all.

See above.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The intelligence community KNEW Atta was al queda and in this country. They KNEW al Queda was going to attack our buildings with planes. They just weren't allowed to do anything with the knowledge. See?

Its not like Iraq at all.

the liberals will never admit this. they can't. they are fully vested in upholding the myth of Clinton at any cost. Lawyers who refuse to admit that perjury is a bad thing. All of sudden there is a non-statutory "if its about sex" exception to the perjury laws. Its mind boggling.

Same with 911. Clinton, 8 years, Bush 8 months. Same intel, but Bush is responsible. Better yet, even if Clinton's ommission might have had some small affect, its trumped by Bush's fuck ups, if any, in Iraq policy (notwithstanding that Clinton told us that until Saddam was removed, he posed a huge threat of destabilization to the region and the pursuit and use of WMDs). Bush's alleged "mistakes" in Iraq, that to date haven't resulted in 2000 American deaths, are more egregious than Clinton's mistakes that resulted in the first foreign attack, of any substance, on US soil, by a foreign army since WWII, ad 3000 American deaths in a matter of hours.

With the liberals its blame us first, black is white, up is down, through the looking glass and no looking back.

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
See, you and I agree that multiple administrations share blame for 9/11.

I personally blame the Islamists.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The intelligence community KNEW Atta was al queda and in this country.

You'd better check the newspapers on that one. You're getting a little far from the facts again.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
You'd better check the newspapers on that one. You're getting a little far from the facts again.

The whole Able Danger thing is a mess. I refuse to comment on it until more comes out.

Hey, has Rove been indicted yet?