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Sexual Harassment Panda · 12-16-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I don't need the whole transcript just the part where Powell says the "sole" reason we are going to war is to eliminate the "WMDs" or even where Powell says the "main" reason we are going in is to take the WMDs away from Saddam.

Is that too much to ask?

“For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.”

~ Paul Wolfowitz, Vanity Fair Interview, 2003-05-28

12-16-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Did I ever say Quagmire was funny? Would you classify Iraq right now as a Quagmire?

Your snarky chortling about the supposed absurdity of everyone's doubts about the Iraqi misadventure is premature and baseless. I had the impression that it amused you to compile that little list of straw-man quotes, but I will concede that I don't really know when you're trying to be funny.

Is it a quagmire? Can we leave tomorrow? Then it's not.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 12-16-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I think this qualifies as a Hitler reference.

Bitch, please. It's the obvious answer to your question. 6 million jews, were they alive, might make a compelling argument for a preemptive war.

12-16-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Bitch, please. It's the obvious answer to your question. 6 million jews, were they alive, might make a compelling argument for a preemptive war.

They might, but it doesn't seem like anyone else can. Except if it's Hitler -- Hitler we shoulda gotten sooner. Can see that now, clear as day. Hitler bad, Saddam bad, pre-emptive war good!

Shape Shifter · 12-16-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Bitch, please. It's the obvious answer to your question. 6 million jews, were they alive, might make a compelling argument for a preemptive war.

Bitch, please. Cite me to evidence that we knew that if the French let Germany start building planes that it would lead to the deaths of 6 million Jews.

Not Bob · 12-16-2005, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Bitch, please. Cite me to evidence that we knew that if the French let Germany start building planes that it would lead to the deaths of 6 million Jews.

I blame Henry Cabot Lodge. If the US were in the League of Nations, then Britain would have felt safe about making the French feel safe about sending troops into the Rhineland in 1936.

Sexual Harassment Panda · 12-16-2005, 05:17 PM

I recall some around here arguing the bush administration talking point that Congress had access to the same intelligence leading up to the start of the war that the administration had.

Not surprisingly, they didn't.

Replaced_Texan · 12-16-2005, 05:54 PM

And Jack Abramoff too.

Fodder for Spanky

(ETA: read the Statesman article too)

Hank Chinaski · 12-16-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
Your snarky chortling about the supposed absurdity of everyone's doubts about the Iraqi misadventure is premature and baseless. I had the impression that it amused you to compile that little list of straw-man quotes, but I will concede that I don't really know when you're trying to be funny.

Is it a quagmire? Can we leave tomorrow? Then it's not.

1) Republicans lie when in positions of power-
2) Democrats will never be trusted in positions of power again in our lives-

Therefore, we must learn to live with liars.

Discusss:

Spanky · 12-16-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
I blame Henry Cabot Lodge. If the US were in the League of Nations, then Britain would have felt safe about making the French feel safe about sending troops into the Rhineland in 1936.

I can go along with that. The Republicans keeping us out of the League of Nations was a shamefull act of stupidy and political expediancy. In my opinion, there is no doubt that some of the blame for WWII has to be laid at the feet of the those morons that kept the U.S. from signing the treaty of Versailles and kept the US out of the League of Nations.

Spanky · 12-16-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
Your snarky chortling ......

That is a great phrase. Almost sounds like something out of Jabberwocky - can I borrow that?

Replaced_Texan · 12-16-2005, 07:03 PM

I think the White House Christmas video is cute, though the dogs are better actors than most of the people (especially the First Lady).

taxwonk · 12-16-2005, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Bitch, please. Cite me to evidence that we knew that if the French let Germany start building planes that it would lead to the deaths of 6 million Jews.

Bitch, please. The truth is that even after we knew what was going on we still stood back. After all, it was only the Jews, Gypsies, Commies, and queers. It's not like anyone important was being exterminated.

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-17-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky
That is generally the bottom line in all political disputes. However, the NRA's endorsement in state wide elections in California is worth about as much as a bucket of warm spit.

I like guns, but I think their reading of the Second Amendment is an abomination.

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-17-2005, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky
If the French had the balls to enforce the Versailles treaty we could have probably avoided WWII.

Because French cojones would have nipped the support for Hitler in the bud?