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Old 08-16-2005, 02:14 PM   #1681
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One can mention Hitler, one cannot alude that someone one is arguing with is Hitler-like. Also, there is an exception for Board management.

Example- say hypothetically several images are deleted I could say:

This jack booted night of the long knives when all my images were deleted.

I would not lose in that I can ascribe Nazi qualities to thise in Power. Of course I would never do so, but I want you to understand the rule if you are going to post about it.
I thought the Night of the Long Knives was when Nixon had his jack-booted thug Robert Bork fire Archibald Cox and Elliot Richardson was forced to resign?

Oh, wait. That was the Saturday Night Massacre. By the way, I can see how a Knight could wear jack boots, but not a night. Explain?
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:14 PM   #1682
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What's the deal with all the stick shift stuff? I feel like I walked in during the middle of something.
You and me both. Not anyone's best material. Which is why I had to put an end to it.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:16 PM   #1683
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What's the deal with all the stick shift stuff? I feel like I walked in during the middle of something.
Stick shifts are hot.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:16 PM   #1684
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And with you i won't bother to explain why you're wrong on the rule- old dog, etc.
Then I won't bother to point out that your argument clearly analogized Arafat to Hitler. The mere fact that the analogy is a lot closer than most does not negate the fact the analogy was made.
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You and me both. Not anyone's best material. Which is why I had to put an end to it.
So, um, how did it end?
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So Wonk, I assume that your series of "dead" or "not in office" posts mean that once a political actor is dead or not in office the historical effect of their past actions or the events on the present are irrelevant once the actor is dead or out of office? So Arafat's beliefs and policies and philosophies died with him and as of his death the PLO, Hamas, FAtah et al became blank slates with regard to operational policy and mission. How did that work out, did they repeal the 1974 plan related to the destruction of Israel or does that automatically terminate on Arafat's death? Could I see a cite to the termination section? Also, did the leadership expressly repudiate Arafat's guiding statements of the mission or was it an automatic repudiation on death? If I pull past quotes from the current leadership expressing the same jew/Israel hating sentiments and destructive goals do I assume that those statements automatically lose effect on Arafat's death?

As for Clinton, I guess the lesson is there is no lesson to be learned from an examination of past history. Anything that happened under any former leader's watch is history, npi, upon the termination of that office. Nothing can be gained from looking at, discussing it and there is certainly no responsibility for it.

In fairness however, I don't understand why this "No-Responsibility Zone" should be applied solely upon your inferred defintion of a terminating event (i.e. death or lose of office). Why shouldn't start each day anew, free of responsibility from past action. Perhaps Bush made mistakes yesterday or last week or last year etc that resulted in problems yesterday in Iraq or the US, why he should be held accountable anymore than Clinton can no longer be held accountable for 8 years of foreign policy neglect and fiasco that were the direct causes for 911? Everyday should be a clean slate, Ground Hog Day style, iyw.

Good, the ground rules are now clear for our No-Responsibility Zone. (remember no comments about Reagan or Bush I or anyone in the Republican party for anything that they did or said prior to today. If the Senate applies this rule, the Roberts confirmation hearing will be a breeze).
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I thought the Night of the Long Knives was when Nixon had his jack-booted thug Robert Bork fire Archibald Cox and Elliot Richardson was forced to resign?

Oh, wait. That was the Saturday Night Massacre. By the way, I can see how a Knight could wear jack boots, but not a night. Explain?
"jack booted" only describes fashion anymore in certain gay circles. the term is now used to desribe a quality or style of behavior.

As to Nixon, he should have had one of the younger staff attorneys on the Senate investigation team killed to provide a warning to them to back off. That's the way clinton would have played it, and that's nothing Hillary wouldn't have appreciated as the smart play and what she had coming.
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So, um, how did it end?
Ha, even when I'm being unintentional.... But uh, to tell you the truth, I just handed it to someone else and moved on to the next thing.
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Then I won't bother to point out that your argument clearly analogized Arafat to Hitler. The mere fact that the analogy is a lot closer than most does not negate the fact the analogy was made.
Dimwit. I can analogize Arafat as Hitler, I just can't call you a Nazi. Clients entrust their matters to you?
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So is Hitler. That doesn't mean we can't take a lesson from how he was treated and allowed to go unchecked. Same with Arafat and the "new" Palistinian leadership.

Hank, STP, this is a No-Responsibility Zone. Hitler is dead. He is absolved of historical effect.
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Are you sure you aren't thinking of Generallissimo Francisco Franco?
STP please, this is a No-Responsibility Zone. Franco has no relevance, he is dead.
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And with you i won't bother to explain why you're wrong on the rule- old dog, etc.
Actually Hank, you are wrong. We are now in a No-Responsibility Zone.

Wonk, could you please define the "new Palestinian leadership" and what quotes or comments that they have made today regarding the Palestinian mission? Please do so promptly as, of course, time is of the essence with this being a No-Responsibility Zone, as of midnight tonight any such statements lose effect.
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I thought the Night of the Long Knives was when Nixon had his jack-booted thug Robert Bork fire Archibald Cox and Elliot Richardson was forced to resign?

Oh, wait. That was the Saturday Night Massacre. By the way, I can see how a Knight could wear jack boots, but not a night. Explain?
STP!!!! Irrelevant!!! Under a No-Responsibility Zone, your post is worthless, Nixon is dead, Bork no longer holds the relevant office, Cox is dead and Richardson is either dead or out of office.

Please respect the NRZ.
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Stick shifts are hot.

Please post on topic instead of this typical drivel. Drivel is appropriate on the general board, this board is for politics.
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Then I won't bother to point out that your argument clearly analogized Arafat to Hitler. The mere fact that the analogy is a lot closer than most does not negate the fact the analogy was made.
Hitler and Arafat are dead. In a NRZ there is no relevance in this post. Please respect the NRZ.
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