Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 106

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Your final sentence sounds right... except that the radicals on the Arab/Palestinian side seem to be a lot more influential that the radicals on the Israeli side.

They are not just influential, they are the leaders.

Here's another quote from Nobel Peace Prize winner Arafat:

"We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. . . . We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem."

Here's another:

"Continued to press on soldiers of freedom! We will not bend or fail until the blood of every last Jew from the youngest child to the oldest elder is spilt to redeem or land!"

Replaced_Texan · 08-15-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
The bloom may have gone off the rose a bit when balt pulled out and came on her face instead of letting her swallow, which is apparently her preferred option.

It's in the dossier, isn't it? If not, make a note of it.

ltl/fb · 08-15-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Here, I'll give you the first one I found from Google.

JMCC Public Opinion Poll No. 48 On Palestinian Attitudes Towards the Palestinian Situation in General
http://www.jmcc.org/publicpoll/results/2003/no48.htm
April 2003

Q.11 What is your feeling towards suicide bombing operations against Israeli civilians, do you support it or oppose it?

Strongly support 37.8
Somewhat support 22.1
Strongly oppose 11.7
Somewhat oppose 18.6
I Don't Know 6.7
No answer 3.1

Wow, that looks like a really, really evenhanded site you got yourself there.

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
The bloom may have gone off the rose a bit when balt pulled out and came on her face instead of letting her swallow, which is apparently her preferred option.

Let's keep the PB on topic. there are other more appropriate boards for this stuff. Ty and I have a moral imperative here.

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:39 PM

Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations.-Yassir Arafat

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:40 PM

Since we cannot defeat Israel in war; we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel. -Yassir Arafat

baltassoc · 08-15-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
balt was cuckold, RT and balt are now an item, they used to be cute on the boards but then everyone got sick of hearing them coo at each other.

Did I skip anything?

I've never come out as cuckold. I am neither confirming nor denying, but we've had similar experiences over the past few months. RT and I are now seeing each other. It was like three posts, and not particularly "cooing."

Oh, and we'll both be at ACL, which I guess will kind of be our in person coming out as a couple. Everyone's invited to stay at ShapeShifter's house (I think that's right - right SS?).

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:44 PM

We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem. -Yassir Arafat

Sidd Finch · 08-15-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
They are not just influential, they are the leaders.

Here's another quote from Nobel Peace Prize winner Arafat:

Arafat is dead, I think. And, in any event (and sadly) was hardly the most radical of influential Palestinian voices. Those more extreme voices -- Hamas, for example -- seem to be more influential that the nominal Palestinian leadership. And certainly more than their counterparts in Israel.

That said (i.e., agreeing with some of your views), repeated quotes from Arafat showing how particularly vicious he was are not particularly insightful. I suspect you could find some quotes from Ariel Sharon that make his recent actions... well, let's say, surprising.

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:45 PM

Whoever thinks of stopping the uprising before it achieves its goals, I will give him ten bullets in the chest. -Yassir Arafat

SlaveNoMore · 08-15-2005, 07:48 PM

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ltl/fb
Wow, that looks like a really, really evenhanded site you got yourself there.

The point remains that the majority of Palestinians do not want peace. If anything, the majority of Palestinians would like to see innocent Israeli citizens murdered.

Replaced_Texan · 08-15-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Here's another quote from Nobel Peace Prize winner Arafat:

I should know better than to engage you when you're in this mood, but you've been in this mood since the sock agreement was made and I doubt you'll ever stop.

What's up with the Peace Prize references? Seems to me that a lot of very good people have won that award notwithstanding some awardees who in historical retrospect seem like poor choices.

As far as I can tell, Arafat shared the award so the statement is an accurate one. But the only purpose I can see for the constant references to the honor is to denigrate the award in gneral by partnering it with someone who was not only an antithesis of peace but also a bad man. Is your purpose to point out that the Swedes failed in considering their nominees? Or is your purpose to reduce the award to meaninglessness so that the very good people who have received it for unbelievable humanitarian work are lumped in the same category as undeserving of recognition?

It offends me that the Presidental Medal of Freedom was bestowed upon George "slam dunk" Tenet, but it doesn't mean that I think that the award has been tarnished and the rest of the recipients of that award are as undeserving as Tenet was.

Is your intent to tar Arafat or the Peace Prize or the Swedes or do you just think that liberals blindly adore anyone who has won that prize in the same way we Americans should respect anyone who wins the Presidental Medal of Freedom, the highest award that can be bestowed on our nation?

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Arafat is dead, I think. And, in any event (and sadly) was hardly the most radical of influential Palestinian voices. Those more extreme voices -- Hamas, for example -- seem to be more influential that the nominal Palestinian leadership. And certainly more than their counterparts in Israel.

Arafat is dead, but his legacy is undeniably strong. there has not been a real substantive change.

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch

That said (i.e., agreeing with some of your views), repeated quotes from Arafat showing how particularly vicious he was are not particularly insightful. I suspect you could find some quotes from Ariel Sharon that make his recent actions... well, let's say, surprising.

You might be able to, but the bottom line is, Sharon attempts to act through the international legal process, Sharon is the product of democratically elections and Sharon is not trying to kill all of the Palestinians. On the latter, if he was, he wouldn't be pulling out of Gaza.

Penske_Account · 08-15-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The point remains that the majority of Palestinians do not want peace. If anything, the majority of Palestinians would like to see innocent Israeli citizens murdered.

2.

ltl/fb · 08-15-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The point remains that the majority of Palestinians do not want peace. If anything, the majority of Palestinians would like to see innocent Israeli citizens murdered.

I don't disbelieve you as a general matter, but I don't think a poll from that site helps your case. It's like gauging support for school prayer and the morning after pill on polls from www.southernbaptistconvention.org.