Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 285

Replaced_Texan · 09-08-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You may be right. But, more importantly, it would be presumptous for me to impose any expectations on the Paramedics based upon what i might do in their situation.

Well, you would have been out of the city days earlier, so how you'd use your skills to save the day in the city are irrelevant.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-08-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
By blog I mean some asshole's opinion. If this is something more, let me know

Like most writing in magazines and newspapers, that piece contains a mixture of fact and opinion.

I just explained to an 81-year-old man at the coffee shop what the word "blog" means. I didn't realize the confusion about it was so widespread.

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Given that there has been no reform, might it not be a good idea to fuck up the chance for more graft $$$$ to flow?

If you had read the article or any other coverage of the UN recently, you would know that there is a real good chance for reform just now, or was until Bolton decided to torpedo it.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-08-2005, 04:49 PM

Good news -- maybe FEMA isn't doing much to restrict press coverage.

Hank Chinaski · 09-08-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Like most writing in magazines and newspapers, that piece contains a mixture of fact and opinion.

I just explained to an 81-year-old man at the coffee shop what the word "blog" means. I didn't realize the confusion about it was so widespread.

If you had read the article or any other coverage of the UN recently, you would know that there is a real good chance for reform just now, or was until Bolton decided to torpedo it.

Dimwit- the reform the first article spoke of was of how the programs are monitored, not what flavors the programs come in. You honestly don't see the difference? Your article, mixing fact and opinion and all, might be very very insightful and important- BUT IT DOESN"T HAVE 2 FUCKS TO DO WITH THE REFORMS CLUB"S ARTICLE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Honestly, how many people were surprised to hear Ty parks backwards and thinks it fine? Not me.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-08-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
If the buses had removed 50 or 60,000 pre-levee break, then when these folks went to the Superdome or Convention Center there would have been room at the inn and the conditions would not have been as bad as they were.

Out of curiosity, have you seen anything in the press suggesting that there were 50,000 or 60,000 people in New Orleans who would have gotten on schools buses to evacuate, and instead couldn't leave the city? 'Cause if that number of people were stuck there under those circumstances, I'd expect a lot of righteous indignation about it to be bubbling up in the stories written about the survivors, and I'm not seeing it.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-08-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Dimwit- the reform the first article spoke of was of how the programs are monitored, not what flavors the programs come in. You honestly don't see the difference? Your article, mixing fact and opinion and all, might be very very insightful and important- BUT IT DOESN"T HAVE 2 FUCKS TO DO WITH THE REFORMS CLUB"S ARTICLE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Did I say it did? Jesus.

SlaveNoMore · 09-08-2005, 05:02 PM

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Tyrone Slothrop
If you had read the article or any other coverage of the UN recently, you would know that there is a real good chance for reform just now, or was until Bolton decided to torpedo it.

The WSJ had an editorial on this just yesterday - praising Bolton's changes.

One of his deletions pertained to the draining of billions of dollars to be spent on temporary quarters - while they "upgrade" current headquarters on the East Side.

Since I only get the print version - I cant copy online in full. Anyone care to oblige?

Hank Chinaski · 09-08-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Out of curiosity, have you seen anything in the press suggesting that there were 50,000 or 60,000 people in New Orleans who would have gotten on schools buses to evacuate, and instead couldn't leave the city? 'Cause if that number of people were stuck there under those circumstances, I'd expect a lot of righteous indignation about it to be bubbling up in the stories written about the survivors, and I'm not seeing it.

I just saw a Time in a doctor's office from a week (2? more?) ago. On the cover in Kanye West- with lead "Maybe the Smartest Man in Pop Music."

Penske_Account · 09-08-2005, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Out of curiosity, have you seen anything in the press suggesting that there were 50,000 or 60,000 people in New Orleans who would have gotten on schools buses to evacuate, and instead couldn't leave the city? 'Cause if that number of people were stuck there under those circumstances, I'd expect a lot of righteous indignation about it to be bubbling up in the stories written about the survivors, and I'm not seeing it.

I thought that there were about 100,000 people stuck, no? Doesn't matter if they got on, once they declined the burden shifts, but they never had the opportutnity, despite the 2000 plan that clearly identifies the procedure. Still defending Nagin?

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-08-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I thought that there were about 100,000 people stuck, no? Doesn't matter if they got on, once they declined the burden shifts, but they never had the opportutnity, despite the 2000 plan that clearly identifies the procedure. Still defending Nagin?

Still beating your wife?

Penske_Account · 09-08-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Still beating your wife?

Yes. Despite the "wine and cheese baby" around my midsection I have enough residual speed and endurance to drop her arse in both short and long distances. And I can also outdrive, outdrink, outswim and outbike her. Competition in our household is a one sided affair. NPI.

Still defending Nagin?

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-08-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Yes. Despite the "wine and cheese baby" around my midsection I have enough residual speed and endurance to drop her arse in both short and long distances. And I can also outdrive, outdrink, outswim and outbike her. Competition in our household is a one sided affair. NPI.

Still defending Nagin?

I wasn't ever defending Nagin, so, no, I'm not still doing so.

Why so obsessed with trashing Nagin? It's almost like you're trying divert attention from other stories. Hmm.

Penske_Account · 09-08-2005, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I wasn't ever defending Nagin, so, no, I'm not still doing so.

Please stop this insanity Ty. Your deflection of responsibility away from Nagin (and Blanco) to Bush and the Feds is an implicit defence. Your refusal to acknowledge the bus fiasco despite massive amounts of evidence is embarassing. Just admit that Nagin is guilty of being primarily responsible for the death and misery of many and we can move on.

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Why so obsessed with trashing Nagin? It's almost like you're trying divert attention from other stories. Hmm.

Where I have heard this whine before..................

Hank Chinaski · 09-08-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Out of curiosity, have you seen anything in the press suggesting that there were 50,000 or 60,000 people in New Orleans who would have gotten on schools buses to evacuate, and instead couldn't leave the city? 'Cause if that number of people were stuck there under those circumstances, I'd expect a lot of righteous indignation about it to be bubbling up in the stories written about the survivors, and I'm not seeing it.

Do you think the people who were standed in the Convention Center or Dome have been keeping up with the newspapers or watching lots of TV to know about the bus issue? Give Penske a half hour with a bullhorn in the Astrodome and you might see some indignation.

Ty@50 · 09-08-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I wasn't ever defending Nagin, so, no, I'm not still doing so.

Why so obsessed with trashing Nagin? It's almost like you're trying divert attention from other stories. Hmm.

I must say, this visit hasn't proven to be what I'd expected. I thought it would be bittersweet seeing my younger self, and all my old internet "friends."

I knew I would disagree with many of the posts I had done, but frankly the magnitude of my erstwhile misdirection has almost become horrifying to me.

I believe I may delete the time travel software from my computer to protect my ego from further trauma.