Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 272

baltassoc · 09-07-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

Your grandstanding about an idea that someone else created is vile. I'm sure the lack of acknowledgements or disclosures to you are quite low due to the grandstanding. Anyone remember Ironweed "shaking the trees" this way?

No, he didn't. So what? To each his own. Why does it bother you so much that I cajole people into giving to a good cause?

Seriously, I don't know whether you have given money to the Red Cross or some other suitable charity or not. I'm not calling on you to publicly state that you have. I will assume you have.

Your sensitivity to this issue is quite extraordinary, however.

A couple of days ago you were just as vehement against my suggestion that accepting aid offered by other countries might be a good thing. Do you just have a thing against NO? Do you think they brought this upon themselves?

My vision of you is rapidly becoming one of some macho Kirk Douglas / Charlton Heston type yelling "Don't help him up. He's got to get up on his own."

NO doesn't need no stinkin' boats. Or helecopters. Or generators. Or pumps. Or fresh water. Or help from volunteers. Everything's under control. If they can't pull themselves up by there bootstraps, it just wasn't meant to be. Check. Got it. Let the place burn.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Sounds like Karen Hughes is thinking hard about how to improve the way the U.S. comes across on Al Jazeera.

We should take Al jazeera out. They are co-conspirators of Al Qaeda.

Hank Chinaski · 09-07-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
No, he didn't. So what? To each his own. Why does it bother you so much that I cajole people into giving to a good cause?

Seriously, I don't know whether you have given money to the Red Cross or some other suitable charity or not. I'm not calling on you to publicly state that you have. I will assume you have.

Your sensitivity to this issue is quite extraordinary, however.

A couple of days ago you were just as vehement against my suggestion that accepting aid offered by other countries might be a good thing. Do you just have a thing against NO? Do you think they brought this upon themselves?

My vision of you is rapidly becoming one of some macho Kirk Douglas / Charlton Heston type yelling "Don't help him up. He's got to get up on his own."

NO doesn't need no stinkin' boats. Or helecopters. Or generators. Or pumps. Or fresh water. Or help from volunteers. Everything's under control. If they can't pull themselves up by there bootstraps, it just wasn't meant to be. Check. Got it. Let the place burn.

I'll just drop this. you're heading for needing a sock change, and that wouldn't be practical.

sebastian_dangerfield · 09-07-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
No, he didn't. So what? To each his own. Why does it bother you so much that I cajole people into giving to a good cause?

Seriously, I don't know whether you have given money to the Red Cross or some other suitable charity or not. I'm not calling on you to publicly state that you have. I will assume you have.

Your sensitivity to this issue is quite extraordinary, however.

A couple of days ago you were just as vehement against my suggestion that accepting aid offered by other countries might be a good thing. Do you just have a thing against NO? Do you think they brought this upon themselves?

My vision of you is rapidly becoming one of some macho Kirk Douglas / Charlton Heston type yelling "Don't help him up. He's got to get up on his own."

NO doesn't need no stinkin' boats. Or helecopters. Or generators. Or pumps. Or fresh water. Or help from volunteers. Everything's under control. If they can't pull themselves up by there bootstraps, it just wasn't meant to be. Check. Got it. Let the place burn.

I think he just doesn't like being preached to. He probably gives anonymously.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
I have posted about 10 posts on the subject, most of them clumped around a half hour period, and mostly in response to a particularly asinine postition you insisted on defending. As it was a holiday weekend, I choose to believe you were simply drunk.

This morning, I linked to two documents that seem to be relevant to a discussion of interest to the board, but not particularly to me (i.e. who was more negligent in the early stages of responding to the disaster).

To the extent I have energy to discuss the topic at all, I am much more interested in ongoing, current incompetence (the subject of my multiple posts with you Sunday).

I have nothing more to say on the topic for now. Except that people who don't give money to the Red Cross are chumps.

(Again, with a few exceptions who have disclosed themselves to me directly, I have no idea who has given what. Hank may be cool. Or he may be a chump. I'll leave that to the board to decide.)

You have not commented on Nagin's fuckups which preceded and set up every other entities' fuck ups.

And why is the Red Cross the end all be all of charitable organizations? I have given to other organizations and am working with a non-red cross organization to bring kids (and possibly families) to Seattle during the period of their displacement so that the kids can attend private schools in seattle during such period. I suppose all the people in this effourt are chumps. I let them all know you say so.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
The goose-stepping in front of the Jewish dorms when he was at Stanford was pretty classy.

Cite please.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
On a serious note, I heard yesterday that Rehnquist and O'Connor dated briefly at Stanford. I had never heard this before. What's up with that?

Are you jealous? Her husband is sort of sickly, maybe if you wait him out you still have a chance.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
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dissent. And you both continue to duck the issue. Is Nagin paying y'all?

Hank Chinaski · 09-07-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Are you jealous? Her husband is sort of sickly, maybe if you wait him out you still have a chance.

If his mom does start dating Teddy Kennedy, do you think the 4 of them could sit at the same table? I mean philisophically, not physically.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Can someone give an example of a society that has no safety net -- where people are all self-reliant? Because I'm not feeling it.

Whether or not there is a historical precedent has no bearing on the validity of the idea. Try thinking outside of your box.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
No, he didn't. So what? To each his own. Why does it bother you so much that I cajole people into giving to a good cause?

Seriously, I don't know whether you have given money to the Red Cross or some other suitable charity or not. I'm not calling on you to publicly state that you have. I will assume you have.
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It's arrogant. And who decides what is "suitable"? You? Again, if you are serious, its arrogant and off putting. I wonder if the red Cross knows about the effourts because you may be costing them donations if you are doing this on wide spread basis. The way you wrote the first post had you calling me and anyone else here who gives to another org "chumps" (and ftr there is at leastr one other person here who has pledged to donate to the effourts I am engaged in).

Let me add that none of that is meant to take away from your good intentions and admirable acts in giving money to the red cross or assisting others with giving.

baltassoc · 09-07-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
You have not commented on Nagin's fuckups which preceded and set up every other entities' fuck ups.

And why is the Red Cross the end all be all of charitable organizations? I have given to other organizations and am working with a non-red cross organization to bring kids (and possibly families) to Seattle during the period of their displacement so that the kids can attend private schools in seattle during such period. I suppose all the people in this effourt are chumps. I let them all know you say so.

Nice. I've said repeatedly that I don't care what organization one gives to.

This is the kind of politics of personal destruction I've come to expect from you, though, so I'm not too bothered.

Penske_Account · 09-07-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If his mom does start dating Teddy Kennedy, do you think the 4 of them could sit at the same table? I mean philisophically, not physically.

When Ted flies coach, does he have to pay for two seats? The pic from the other day showed a lot of spillage into the adjacent seat.

Hank Chinaski · 09-07-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
Nice. I've said repeatedly that I don't care what organization one gives to.

This is the kind of politics of personal destruction I've come to expect from you, though, so I'm not too bothered.

2. I have to agree with this. Penske is a hate sock

Hank Chinaski · 09-07-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
When Ted flies coach, does he have to pay for two seats? The pic from the other day showed a lot of spillage into the adjacent seat.

say if the Democratic Senate leadership took a junket to Cuba, would they each get 2 seats? otherwise, can you explain how it would be fair to Leiberman?