Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Some examples of what might be wrong include cancer and being younger than 5.

Nope.

As to the people with cancer, while I sympathize, having the tail wag the dog (in this case a tail analogous to a lightning needle atop a skyscraper) has never been wise policy by which to regulate 300 million people.

As to 5 year olds, they're already getting it like crazy. Do you think with all the adults acquiring it and not even knowing it, the kids aren't getting it?

At a certain point, vigilance needs to cede to pragmatism. Are we there yet? Maybe. Maybe not. But when people are doing in night clubs what Hank was describing, it seems impossible for Omicron not to have infected almost everyone. Which is a good thing. A weak strain that boosts immunity hastens the endemic stage.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

"A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

The "regulated" part is desired. The argument there is one of degree.

The "owned" portion is not desired. But there is an argument of degree, or regarding certain services and industries, to be engaged there. I'm increasingly coming to the view that some things, like health care, might not be appropriately placed entirely in private hands. I'm also reaching the conclusion that perhaps search should be a public utility. And that data mined from consumers should belong to the public rather than the sites and search engines that compile it. Or, alternatively, that people should be paid for the extraction and use of their data (Jaron Lanier's idea).

True socialism does not work. Partial socialism, which we have, can work. The cartoon suggested that we needed true socialism. I'd say to the extent socialism works, and it does for some things, it should be employed sparingly.

Welcome, Comrade.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

As to the people with cancer, while I sympathize, having the tail wag the dog (in this case a tail analogous to a lightning needle atop a skyscraper) has never been wise policy by which to regulate 300 million people.

See, "wear a mask in public" seems like a really, really tiny thing to do for them. Especially if masks are free (which they should have been as soon as we were no longer concerned about availability of PPE for health care workers).

As to 5 year olds, they're already getting it like crazy. Do you think with all the adults acquiring it and not even knowing it, the kids aren't getting it?

Yes, our fully-vaxxed 5 year old's preschool had to close for a week because one or more kids got it. That's exactly the reason we still need preventative measures. She goes to school with kids that aren't old enough yet and has a cousin who isn't either.

A weak strain that boosts immunity hastens the endemic stage.

That would be a good thing, and I think Omicron out competing Delta has had positive effects, but as I understand the current state of the data (subject to change, of course): (1) Omicron is not necessarily milder for children, and (2) it doesn't seem to be providing lasting immunity (or immunity correlates with severity of illness).

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Adder

See, "wear a mask in public" seems like a really, really tiny thing to do for them. Especially if masks are free (which they should have been as soon as we were no longer concerned about availability of PPE for health care workers).

Beware do-gooders like Adder bearing governmental power - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/.

Denmark is smarter - https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/europ...ntl/index.html

And as for performative, the U.S requires fully vaxxed and boosted travelers to the U.S. to have a negative test within 1 day to enter the country, presumably to ensure that no COVID gets into a country where it is endemic.

But ... the children!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Beware do-gooders like Adder bearing governmental power - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/.

Worse- work from home has severely impacted innovation. People can’t collaborate over Zoom very well. Companies in “dumb” states that relaxed those restrictions early, and are in office, are innovating like always. New England will be the new Mississippi. Florida will be the next California.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Beware do-gooders like Adder bearing governmental power - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/.

Worse- work from home has severely impacted innovation. People can’t collaborate over Zoom very well. Companies in “dumb” states that relaxed those restrictions early, and are in office, are innovating like always. New England will be the new Mississippi. Florida will be the next California.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Beware do-gooders like Adder bearing governmental power - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/.

If the lockdowns had little impact because lots of people ignored them, that's not really a stunning indictment of the government have too much power.

Denmark is smarter - https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/europ...ntl/index.html

Seems like a better policy in a country where vaccination rate >80%. If my kids go to a public school and a significant proportion of kids in the school have parents who won't vaccinate them, that's a different sort of problem.

And as for performative, the U.S requires fully vaxxed and boosted travelers to the U.S. to have a negative test within 1 day to enter the country, presumably to ensure that no COVID gets into a country where it is endemic.

Yes, performative. What I have seen people (e.g., Tyler Cowen) say, though, is that the government wins support for other stuff through this sort of COVID theater. Just not enough of it, I guess.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

As to the people with cancer, while I sympathize, having the tail wag the dog (in this case a tail analogous to a lightning needle atop a skyscraper) has never been wise policy by which to regulate 300 million people.

Thanks for your sympathy.

Most of us aren't asking for policy to revolve around us. What we're asking for is some basic consideration. I will be socially distant, I will wear a mask, I will go to restaurants and other places that don't just do the minimum but follow common sense policies, and I'd like to not have any fucking idiots making a point of invading my space, abusing me for the care taken, or openly violating the rules of the places I have chosen to go.

During the next 6 months, while I undergo chemo, I'm going to take a lot of care, but I'm also going to be weakened. I'll work with whatever rules there are, but my biggest worry is assholes who flout the rules.

When I did this 8 years ago, without a pandemic, but for a 2 1/2 year stint, I was able to avoid even getting a common cold during the period because I was careful and people were considerate. But the environment is different now, and the arrogant (hi Les!), ignorant (hi again Les) people who make up for their limp dicks by swaggering around trying to dumpsplain the CDC, Fauci, and the poor waitress who is just trying to follow the rules are the worry.

Again, thanks for the concern. But really, a little common sense, a bit of deference to the rules, and a bit less fake testosterone are what I'd ask for.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Worse- work from home has severely impacted innovation. People can’t collaborate over Zoom very well. Companies in “dumb” states that relaxed those restrictions early, and are in office, are innovating like always. New England will be the new Mississippi. Florida will be the next California.

This just isn't my experience at all.

One area I work heavily in is biotech. It requires labs, so working from home is a real problem. But government in both Mass. and California has prioritized rules that make sense for biotech, and the labs have generally stayed open. On the other hand, Biotech also requires broad collaboration among people dispersed all over the globe. The improvement in the ability to work from remote that has occurred over the last couple years has really helped there. But all those people are still clustered near top notch universities and medical centers. Yes, some are in Florida (I do a lot of work in Florida), and both Miami and Gainesville can benefit, but they aren't going to turn into little South San Frans any time soon.

I do less in traditional tech areas, but still a fair bit. The remote work has broadened hiring at a point when Mass. and California had a shortage - the fact that we can hire into a California company someone who is in Montreal or Chicago has really helped. Of course, when the pandemic is over, a lot of those people are going to have to move to Mass. or California or lose their jobs.

I do think there are opportunities for the places that aren't traditional innovators, but the biggest beneficiary on that score is going to be Canada, because they didn't spend four years fucking up their immigration system and keeping furn'rs out of their schools.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Worse- work from home has severely impacted innovation. People can’t collaborate over Zoom very well. Companies in “dumb” states that relaxed those restrictions early, and are in office, are innovating like always. New England will be the new Mississippi. Florida will be the next California.

No work from home just emphasized that we don’t give a shit about collaborating with you. No offense.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

This just isn't my experience at all.

One area I work heavily in is biotech. It requires labs, so working from home is a real problem. But government in both Mass. and California has prioritized rules that make sense for biotech, and the labs have generally stayed open. On the other hand, Biotech also requires broad collaboration among people dispersed all over the globe. The improvement in the ability to work from remote that has occurred over the last couple years has really helped there. But all those people are still clustered near top notch universities and medical centers. Yes, some are in Florida (I do a lot of work in Florida), and both Miami and Gainesville can benefit, but they aren't going to turn into little South San Frans any time soon.

I do less in traditional tech areas, but still a fair bit. The remote work has broadened hiring at a point when Mass. and California had a shortage - the fact that we can hire into a California company someone who is in Montreal or Chicago has really helped. Of course, when the pandemic is over, a lot of those people are going to have to move to Mass. or California or lose their jobs.

I do think there are opportunities for the places that aren't traditional innovators, but the biggest beneficiary on that score is going to be Canada, because they didn't spend four years fucking up their immigration system and keeping furn'rs out of their schools.

It’s also that dumb fuck boomers only know how to collaborate by walking around the office scratching their nuts. They don’t care about collaborating. Only keeping tabs on the people with ideas.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Beware do-gooders like Adder bearing governmental power - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/.

Denmark is smarter - https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/europ...ntl/index.html

And as for performative, the U.S requires fully vaxxed and boosted travelers to the U.S. to have a negative test within 1 day to enter the country, presumably to ensure that no COVID gets into a country where it is endemic.

But ... the children!

Denmark has over an 80% vax rate. Likely highest vax rate in the world.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Beware do-gooders like Adder bearing governmental power - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/.

We still have people advocating for Covid zero.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

It’s also that dumb fuck boomers only know how to collaborate by walking around the office scratching their nuts. They don’t care about collaborating. Only keeping tabs on the people with ideas.

Hey, come on, I really didn't need the image of so many of my partners scratching their nuts. We try to keep that shit below where the zoom camera sees.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

We still have people advocating for Covid zero.

And now that I think of it, that article is retarded. Now, with vaccines and no lockdowns we have nearly 20x the number of cases and the nearly 2x the of deaths as we did with lockdowns and no vaccines.

For example, 4/8/20 30k cases, 2k deaths. 1/26/22 678k cases and 3500 deaths.


https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...-19-spread-map