Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I have never been to a NASCAR event. I have also never been to a professional wrestling match. Nor have I ever wrestled with a greased pig, or paid for the privilege of kissing a pretty girl in a booth at a county fair.

I have, however, attended an Indy 500. Never in my life, at any concert or air show or toddler birthday party, have my ears bled like they did that day. Those suckers are L-O-U-D.

I went to an Indy 500 and had the same exact experience. You couldn't talk to anyone it was so loud. I just don't get car racing. I probably never will.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I have never been to a NASCAR event. I have also never been to a professional wrestling match. Nor have I ever wrestled with a greased pig, or paid for the privilege of kissing a pretty girl in a booth at a county fair.

I have, however, attended an Indy 500. Never in my life, at any concert or air show or toddler birthday party, have my ears bled like they did that day. Those suckers are L-O-U-D.

2.2.2.2.2.2.

Originally posted by Nut Case, Sensitive
Those Federalist Nuts!

They were right about so many things . . .

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Proving Zombie Hamilton's Fears About Democracy

Guy: That's a really old graveyard. They have tombstones going back to the 1600s.
Girl: I dont understand. How is that possible?
Guy: It's an old church. People were buried there a long time ago.
Girl: Yeah, but wasn't our country made around the 1770s?
Guy: Yes, but there were colonists here from France, England and Spain before that.
Girl: So they brought their dead relatives over here to bury them?

--Trinity Church

http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/002501.html

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I have never been to a NASCAR event. I have also never been to a professional wrestling match. Nor have I ever wrestled with a greased pig, or paid for the privilege of kissing a pretty girl in a booth at a county fair.

I have attended NASCAR. In fact, I have relatives who race stock cars. I do not get it. But then skiing and golf are equally baffling.

I have seen professional wrestling. I think that is a pretty damn entertaining stage show, actually, particularly if you have an interest in fight choreography. And it produces better narrative and character development than most hollywood movies.

I have never wrestled (I believe you meant "wrassled", incidentally) a greased pig, but I have chased a non-greased piglett, for practical rather than entertainment purposes. Yum, bacon.

I have paid for a kiss, but not at a county fair (it was (i) a fireman (OK, several) at a fundraiser and (ii) a cowboy at a stock show). It was money well spent.

Not sure what any of this has to do with anything, other than demonstrating that Americans are apparently all out of our goddamn minds.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Spanky
In the markets of LA and NYC, which are the center of capitalism, is also where you have people that appreciate free markets. It is the rest of the people that live off the fat of the land, not producing anything but "art for arts sake", and reams of written documents that constantly rail about how screwed up this country is, and it is these people that only exist because our country is so productive. And New York and LA do not produce much of anything. All the production is done outside of these cities. It is the downtowns that play with the money that is produced elsewhere. Of course these markets are important, but don't delude yourself for one minute that these downtown areas are "producing" something that the rest of the country lives off of. You got it directly backwards.



I never mentioned anything about culture. You like many idiots in this country confuse culture with something important. Culture is window dressing. It is nice to have nice window dressing, but if you lose it is no big deal. You sound like one of those idiot beauty contestants who wants to unite the world through fashion.

You only get culture when you have an economy that can afford one. In all the countrys I have lived in the average people just don't get it. They think the US is so successful because it "exploits" other countrys. People in this country understand that this country excels because people and the markets are free. You may look down their noses at them, but trust me, if you are going to live in a democracy, it is much better having these people choose your government than the population of any other country. Do you want the electorate of France or Romania to choose your government? Like a typical spoiled brat, you have no idea how good you have it.




Luckily the American public, and not you, is in charge of who runs this country.

Ok, I'll give ya San Fran. They produce a lot of tech up in those parts. And they're well known for being salt of the earth midwestern types. Can't find a more God/Mom/Apple Pie crowd than the Bay Area. Everyone's got ssix foot hard on for the War and Jesus in those parts.

What, pray tell, is "created" all over this country? I see subsidized farmers, failing auto makers and thousands of Wal Marts full of day glo clothes and insect repellent bras for your Camaro.

I can't even follow the rest of your point. It ramrods sideways into some sort of screed about free markets and somehow crashes like the Challenger in a vapor trail about Romanians.

I agree, BTW, that free markets are wonderful. But you cited how "the spirit of America (free markets)" is not alive in NYC and LA. That is just fucking absurd.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda


I have, however, attended an Indy 500. Never in my life, at any concert or air show or toddler birthday party, have my ears bled like they did that day. Those suckers are L-O-U-D.

Aren't earplugs de rigeur?

As for BRC--watching or playing? I'd drive a race car, ski, or play golf. Not much fun watching any of them, at least in person. TV makes it okay, but watching folks drive in circles is pretty damn boring F1 is much better.

[SlaveNoMore]

ironweed
They were right about so many things . . .

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Proving Zombie Hamilton's Fears About Democracy

Guy: That's a really old graveyard. They have tombstones going back to the 1600s.
Girl: I dont understand. How is that possible?
Guy: It's an old church. People were buried there a long time ago.
Girl: Yeah, but wasn't our country made around the 1770s?
Guy: Yes, but there were colonists here from France, England and Spain before that.
Girl: So they brought their dead relatives over here to bury them?

--Trinity Church

http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/002501.html

Cleary summers, I'm guessing.

[SlaveNoMore]

sebastian_dangerfield
Ok, I'll give ya San Fran. They produce a lot of tech up in those parts. And they're well known for being salt of the earth midwestern types. Can't find a more God/Mom/Apple Pie crowd than the Bay Area. Everyone's got ssix foot hard on for the War and Jesus in those parts.

Ahem.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
As for BRC--watching or playing?

Either. For all 3.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
I don't know why, but the American public is the best voting public in the world. While other countrys populations got swept up by socialism, fascism, communism, statism, Gaullism etc. Americans have always stuck to their principles of free markets, free people and limited government. They have never bought into this other B.S.

That is why we have the strongest economy in the world, one of the highest per capita incomes, and why the consumers purchasing power is so strong here.

Country stars and NASCAR stars seem to have this same instincts. Something happens to people when they move to Hollywood or New York. They seem to forget what makes America special and start looking to other countrys as if they have got it better.

No one has got it better. That is why everyone wants to live here.

If you think devotion to free markets is what makes America special, that is truly sad.

And on the subject of limited government, I'll just wait here for you to denounce the Republicans who keep increasing the size of government spending as "unamerican." Oh, and the wide range of GOP business interests that feed at the government trough -- agribusiness, defense contractors, etc. -- they're all traitors, right?

This sort of explains the pathological dislike of FDR, though.

Are you under the impression that the founding fathers were all of this laissez-faire mindset, or did the American character shift somewhere along the line?

[Nut Case, Sensitive]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I have attended NASCAR. In fact, I have relatives who race stock cars. I do not get it. But then skiing and golf are equally baffling.

I have seen professional wrestling. I think that is a pretty damn entertaining stage show, actually, particularly if you have an interest in fight choreography. And it produces better narrative and character development than most hollywood movies.

I have never wrestled (I believe you meant "wrassled", incidentally) a greased pig, but I have chased a non-greased piglett, for practical rather than entertainment purposes. Yum, bacon.

I have paid for a kiss, but not at a county fair (it was (i) a fireman (OK, several) at a fundraiser and (ii) a cowboy at a stock show). It was money well spent.

Not sure what any of this has to do with anything, other than demonstrating that Americans are apparently all out of our goddamn minds.

Have you mud- or jello- rassled, though?

You're my kind of nut!

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you think devotion to free markets is what makes America special, that is truly sad.

Oh, but it's true. Have you ever stopped to consider the number of country songs dedicated to free markets and low tax rates?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
In the markets of LA and NYC, which are the center of capitalism, is also where you have people that appreciate free markets. It is the rest of the people that live off the fat of the land, not producing anything but "art for arts sake", and reams of written documents that constantly rail about how screwed up this country is, and it is these people that only exist because our country is so productive. And New York and LA do not produce much of anything. All the production is done outside of these cities. It is the downtowns that play with the money that is produced elsewhere. Of course these markets are important, but don't delude yourself for one minute that these downtown areas are "producing" something that the rest of the country lives off of. You got it directly backwards.

Two truths:

(1) There is an economic symbiosis between the city and the country that makes this argument about which feeds off the other a little silly. I recommend the book Nature's Metropolis, by Joseph Cronin, for it's explanation of Chicago's growth in the nineteenth century, as an example of this. Chicago grew with the timber, grain and cattle industries in the states to the west of it. Those rural areas needed Chicago, and Chicago needed them. You don't have the big city without those areas, but you also don't have settlement in those areas without, e.g., Chicago supplying the lumber and acting as the transportation hub.

(2) It is a fact that the blue states, which tend to be on the coasts and in the upper Midwest, tend to subsidize the red states, which tend to be rural and in the south and west. Blue states pay more to the federal government than they receive back, and red states are the opposite.

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Cleary summers, I'm guessing.

Maybe Stroock?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Oh, but it's true. Have you ever stopped to consider the number of country songs dedicated to free markets and low tax rates?

No, but maybe that's because country/punk is more my speed.

This is what's in my car's CD player just now:



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