Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Hmm... Lott is breaking ranks.

I wonder if the porch party is still on.

Sandy's going to be there a while.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
When did I say that? I am pro-anal (hi uknowwho!).


eta: giving, not taking, nttawwt.

RiNO either way.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So in other words you want to motivate me to impose a prior restraint on my political speech because you don't like it? Interesting that this is what I see from the left generally a lot. I talk with people irl about politics with some frequency. People who make moveon.org members look rightwing. I would never say to them, I know you are going to criticise Bush and I know its going to be visceral emotional observations and vitriolic and I don't want to hear it because it makes me feel like you are saying those things about me. I listen to what they say. I may say, that's sort of fucked up, but I don't say don't say it. Why do you want to supress speech?

What I want is for you to stop saying that anybody who disagrees with you is just as bad as a rapist and a murderer and a bigot. I want you to stop responding to everything by posting pictures of Byrd in a klan hood. I want you to discuss things like a grownup.

His natural rights trumped.

1. God say that Thou Shalt Honor thy Mother and Thy Father. Since Elian's mother was dead, it was absolutely Right that the wishes of Elian's father be honored.

2. When the wishes of a young child and a parent don't coincide, whose wishes must be honored?

Check.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Hmm... Lott is breaking ranks.

I wonder if the porch party is still on.

It's easy to figure out. When Lott says:

I don't just automatically salute or take a deep bow anytime a nominee is sent up," he said. "I have to find out who these people are, and right now, I'm not satisfied with what I know. I'm not comfortable with the nomination, so we'll just have to work through the process in due time."

Lott said while Miers may be qualified, she is "clearly" not the most qualified person for the job.

Essentially that means, I am as smart or smarter than this lady and a Supreme Court nominee should impress me, big tyme, with their intellect. More than one commentator and Senator noted that Roberts' intellect obviously outclassed most, if not all, of the Senate. Jones, Luttig, McConnel, Alita, JRB etal, all possess that ability. Certainly on jurisprudence, no matter how much their staff is feeding them, those judges run circles around the likes of boneheads like Kennedy and Biden (and Lott too).

Even though I am back in the fold (hi Spanky!) this is an fawful nomination and I hope and pray to the babyjesuschristsuperstar that the Lott's and Brownback's of the world have the intestinal fortitude to deep six it. for history's sake.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So what if it is. Then God will be their judge. I am not saying we can't engage in absolute wrong, I am just saying call it what it is.

Ah, but Penske, that is exactly what you are saying. You say it all the time. You hate the Clintons because they have done wrong. You hate Ted Kennedy because he has done wrong. Same for Byrd and Michael Moore.

Are you actually now saying that Bush is a murderer as well, because he has commanded the killing of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis?

And what of your claimed love for the Second Amendment? If you are truly a devoted disciple of God and Jesus, then how can you express a wilingness to kill?

Is it because all of this is relative?

Checkmate?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
What I want is for you to stop saying that anybody who disagrees with you is just as bad as a rapist and a murderer and a bigot. I want you to stop responding to everything by posting pictures of Byrd in a klan hood. I want you to discuss things like a grownup.

I don't say that anybody that disagrees with me is as bad a rapist and a murderer and a bigot. I say that a rapist and murderer and bigot lack the moral authority to govern and should be called out on that (eg: Ted Kennedy lacks the moral authority to question a supreme court judge, the only judge he should be talking to is the one he begs for mercy before being sent to prison). I also express dismay at a society that allows such criminals to exercise abusive authority over the people. There is a problem with our collective moral compass when as a nation we can't collectively recognise that violating a federal statute and impeding the prosecution of justice by perjuring oneself in a federal court case is wrong. Unqualifiedly, absolutely wrong.

I don't respond to everything with a picture of Byrd in a klan hood. I have probably posted 40 times today and only posted a picture of Byrd once. However, I reserve the right to post that picture because it speaks loudly of the lack of moral compass and understanding of basic right and wrong at the top levels of the DNC. The man is a disguised racist. For anyone to call Bill bennett out for an intellectually provocative, albeit non-pc, hypothetical, when the Dems are touting Byrd as their conscience is the height of hypocrasy. Bennet's hypo is what it is, some words. Byrd is man who rode sidesaddle on lynchings and now he steals our hard earned dollars for his pork in WVA while practising his latent racism. that's fucked up. Get rid of him, then talk about Bennet. Get rid of the institutional racism in most Democrat party cities' urban police departments, then talk about Bennet.

I'm not just talking phottoshoppe, that pic is worth 1000 words, including hyprocrite and hypocrasy!

And grown ups use pictures to make points. I cite Ross Perot, he had lots of neat charts and graphs and stuff, and he was a grown up, albeit short. Are anti-short?

Originally posted by taxwonk

1. God say that Thou Shalt Honor thy Mother and Thy Father. Since Elian's mother was dead, it was absolutely Right that the wishes of Elian's father be honored.

2. When the wishes of a young child and a parent don't coincide, whose wishes must be honored?

Check.

The child's. We are all god's children. I honour that father before I do a dangerous evil oppressive earthly one. Elain's dad was probably an agent of satan, or at least deluded by Satan's minions. Fidel. And Janet.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Ah, but Penske, that is exactly what you are saying. You say it all the time. You hate the Clintons because they have done wrong. You hate Ted Kennedy because he has done wrong. Same for Byrd and Michael Moore.

Are you actually now saying that Bush is a murderer as well, because he has commanded the killing of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis?

And what of your claimed love for the Second Amendment? If you are truly a devoted disciple of God and Jesus, then how can you express a wilingness to kill?

Is it because all of this is relative?

Checkmate?

Leviticus 11:44 forbids eating non-kosher maggots. I will never eat a non-kosher maggot.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Ah, but Penske, that is exactly what you are saying. You say it all the time. You hate the Clintons because they have done wrong. You hate Ted Kennedy because he has done wrong. Same for Byrd and Michael Moore.

Are you actually now saying that Bush is a murderer as well, because he has commanded the killing of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis?

And what of your claimed love for the Second Amendment? If you are truly a devoted disciple of God and Jesus, then how can you express a wilingness to kill?

Is it because all of this is relative?

Checkmate?

I'm saying call out the sinners. and hate their sin.

I am not expresssing a willingness to kill. The gun is a deterrent. So far in cases where it has come up, just pulling the 9MM has ended the potential for any further progression of events.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
The child's. We are all god's children. I honour that father before I do a dangerous evil oppressive earthly one. Elain's dad was probably an agent of satan, or at least deluded by Satan's minions. Fidel. And Janet.

Ah, ah, ah. You're practicing moral relativism. And you're doing it in the name of a state's right to interfere with the natural rights of parents to raise their children.

I'm going home now. You can admit that I have you in checkmate, or we can pick up again tomorrow. In case you're having trouble keeping score:

1. You have yet to offer any support for the notion that your God is absolutely superior than any other God. Absolute faith is nothing more than moral relativism in the absence of proof that God exists and that God is the only true God.

2. You lost on the notion that to kill is an absolute wrong. Merely claiming that it is for God to judge is a concession you've been blocked.

3. You have taken the position that it is okay for the state to run roughshod over the family bond. And you couldn't even offer a token defense for your position.

Sleep well, friend.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I have heard, in addition to such stories about firms, stories about abominable treatment of women in law school in the early 70s, e.g., being required to stand up and state their LSAT scores as justification (or lack thereof) for their being present at the school; only being called on or permitted to ask questions in class on particular days, and the like.

I worked for a woman who was one of two or three in her law school class (in the 50s or 60s I think -- this was a long time ago). The prof would call on people in succession, based on where they sat -- so, moving one by one down the row of desks.

But he would skip over the women.


(To counter this blatant sexism on a grander, cosmic scale, when I taught a law school class I made sure to call on the women a lot, especially if they had nice tits.)

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So in other words you want to motivate me to impose a prior restraint on my political speech because you don't like it? Interesting that this is what I see from the left generally a lot. I talk with people irl about politics with some frequency. People who make moveon.org members look rightwing. I would never say to them, I know you are going to criticise Bush and I know its going to be visceral emotional observations and vitriolic and I don't want to hear it because it makes me feel like you are saying those things about me.

Let me guess -- instead you say "you are a Dim and therefore have no right to criticize anyone, let me prove it to you by showing you my photoshop collection."

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't say that anybody that disagrees with me is as bad a rapist and a murderer and a bigot.

Yep. You do. All the time.

I don't respond to everything with a picture of Byrd in a klan hood. I have probably posted 40 times today and only posted a picture of Byrd once.

Gosh. We're so proud. You only posted that picture once today!

For anyone to call Bill bennett out for an intellectually provocative, albeit non-pc, hypothetical, when the Dems are touting Byrd as their conscience is the height of hypocrasy.

So, although I think Byrd is a piece of shit, I am not allowed to say anything about Bennett, because, well, Byrd.

Get rid of him, then talk about Bennet.

I'll be sure to vote against Byrd next time around.

Get rid of the institutional racism in most Democrat party cities' urban police departments, then talk about Bennet.

Okay, now I also need to reform a bunch of police depts -- in Dem cities only, of course, because we know that while all Dems (sorry, Dims) are racist, we know from the Gospel of Penske that no Repubs are -- before I can say "Bennett is an asshole." Got it.

The prior restraints that you bitch about are perfectly appropriate when applied to "Dims", I suppose.

And grown ups use pictures to make points. I cite Ross Perot, he had lots of neat charts and graphs and stuff, and he was a grown up, albeit short.

He managed to change the charts every once in awhile. And he managed to use them to further discussion, not to shut it down.


Once again, are you even willing to consider the possibility that maybe the problem is the way you express yourself, and not the supposed failure of several people to understand you?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk


Sleep well, friend.

U2.

eta: stay away from the kool aid

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Let me guess -- instead you say "you are a Dim and therefore have no right to criticize anyone, let me prove it to you by showing you my photoshop collection."

Wrong. But I do have Byrd's klansman pic on my phone. And the pic from the adult board with Hillary stroking Saddam and Bin laden. Those are good to flash if I went to end the convo, like if the liberal I am talking wiht has B.O. or stank breath or something. What's up with the lo-grade hygiene on the far left? A way to recognise each other? Or put off The Man?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Why so much blind hate Sebby? You are better than this. The babyjesi love you, despite your sinful ways.

No blind hate. This is all very deserved... People keep nancing about the issue at the center of the so called culture war. Its not about culture - its about intelligence and proper rearing. The things out there calling for a revolution toward regressive behaviors are just plain trash, and hypocrites of the highest order to boot. I have every justification for pitying them, which is what I did until they suddenly started fucking with laws and government. You try to fuck with my liberties and I'll hate you. Call me crazy!