Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's sad that you have to resort to the politics of personal destruction against me, in order to attempt to discredit my criticism of empty and immoral leadership of the demo party. You intentionally twist my words, despite my clearly asserted rebuttal of such falsehoods.

And ftr, I would rather be a big-dick, than a run of the mill dick. Hank's wife is more accommodating to the former.

Yes, Penske. My view of what you believe is because I embrace the politics of personal destruction, and not because of what ou say. I manage to drop that political bent when I talk to or deal with innumerable other repubs and conservatives -- or, I do attack them personally, but somehow I manage to recognize that they, unlike you, do not despise all democrats.

Obviously, it's my lack of reading comprehension that is at fault here. And since no other person has expressed this view of you for at least 10 minutes, clearly it must be just me.

Enough of this -- I was attempting to do you the service of pointing out that the message you send is not the message you (claim that you) want to send. You may consider the favor withdrawn, and I will consider that I was wrong -- the message you send is exactly the message that you want to send. No need for the parenthetical in that last sentence.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Batman would kick his ass. Too much technology.

Hell, the Dark Knight defeated Superman when it came down to it -- though he had the help of the Green Arrow.

S_A_M

It's an unfair match, but Batman
Would tear Spidey assunder;
But, I must note, Spidey could take
The pansy-assed Boy Wonder.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am okay with that. I think California is probably an anamoly. I am not sure there are 4-5M others around the country, just waiting for the religious right to leave. If there had been, Reagan wouldn't have needed to cozy up to Falwell.

Don't forget that Tom McClintock ran against Arnold (it was an open election - no primaries - everyone on the same ticket) and Arnold still won by a landslide even with McClintock getting fifteen percent of the vote. So even if the archconservatives sit it out we can still win.

A moderate Republican can win in New York (Giuliani) California, Mass (current governor), Ohio, Penn (Spector), New Jersey (Whitman) Michigan and Illinois. They would have a strong shot in Florida and Texas (depending on how many conservatives bail). I think that is a majority of the electoral college right there.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Has anyone seen this? Apologies if it's been discussed already, I don't have time to ketchup on the PB.

I don't read Will's column very often, but when I do, I never find myself wishing I had written it myself (although I would have left out the peevish mention of the McCain-Feingold bill).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100400954.html

How sad. And yet, I suspect the right wing's fears are overstated.

I have no doubt that Miers is a right-wing Christ-o-crat, and that this -- combined with the lack of public record -- is why Bush picked her as First Among the Toadies.

Once on the bench, perhaps her lack of experience will result in her deferring to others, or seeking popularity by following O'Connor's evolution.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am okay with that. I think California is probably an anamoly. I am not sure there are 4-5M others around the country, just waiting for the religious right to leave. If there had been, Reagan wouldn't have needed to cozy up to Falwell.

Reagan had to do it because Nixon had fucked up.

You'll see how it goes in Mass. with Romney. I doubt the support that elected him governor will be there in the primaries (if he gets that far) now that he's born again.

And how do you explain ME, NH, and RI, all of which have R senators, but voted for Kerry. There's R support there, but not religious right.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
the babyjesuschristsuperstar was a misunderstood and denounced rebel too. Like your boy Chavez.

Okay. Here's a chance to clarify. This post is a response to Shifter. In what way is Chavez "his boy?"

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Yes, Penske. My view of what you believe is because I embrace the politics of personal destruction, and not because of what ou say. I manage to drop that political bent when I talk to or deal with innumerable other repubs and conservatives -- or, I do attack them personally, but somehow I manage to recognize that they, unlike you, do not despise all democrats.

Obviously, it's my lack of reading comprehension that is at fault here. And since no other person has expressed this view of you for at least 10 minutes, clearly it must be just me.

Enough of this -- I was attempting to do you the service of pointing out that the message you send is not the message you (claim that you) want to send. You may consider the favor withdrawn, and I will consider that I was wrong -- the message you send is exactly the message that you want to send. No need for the parenthetical in that last sentence.

Confidential to Sidd: While Penske is a mod, I understand that if you ask nicely, RT will put him on ignore for you, even for people who aren't sleeping with her. You may find this lowers your level of stress while reading the board. YMMV.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
Don't forget that Tom McClintock ran against Arnold (it was an open election - no primaries - everyone on the same ticket) and Arnold still won by a landslide even with McClintock getting fifteen percent of the vote. So even if the archconservatives sit it out we can still win.

A moderate Republican can win in New York (Giuliani) California, Mass (current governor), Ohio, Penn (Spector), New Jersey (Whitman) Michigan and Illinois. They would have a strong shot in Florida and Texas (depending on how many conservatives bail). I think that is a majority of the electoral college right there.

Uh, I think the results would change considerably if the Democratic opponent were anyone but Grey Davis. That was a fairly unique situation.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Confidential to Sidd: While Penske is a mod, I understand that if you ask nicely, RT will put him on ignore for you, even for people who aren't sleeping with her. You may find this lowers your level of stress while reading the board. YMMV.

Thanks for the tip. I actually have had Penske on virtual ignore for a few months. Among other things, I find that scrolling past his posts makes getting thru the board about 10 times faster.

I wouldn't have noticed today's discussion but for reading Wonk's posts to Penske, in which Wonk made a point that I very much agree with. Of course, it can't be for any reason other than the fact that Wonk and I just can't read.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Spanky

A moderate Republican can win in New York (Giuliani) California, Mass (current governor), Ohio, Penn (Spector), New Jersey (Whitman) Michigan and Illinois. They would have a strong shot in Florida and Texas (depending on how many conservatives bail). I think that is a majority of the electoral college right there.

You forgot Maryland (gov). And probably Virginia.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
2. They should be shot on site, and if they survive, they should have their licenses revoked.

Since Texans are so into hunting and the second Amendment. Instead of killing animals, why just don't you guys open up hunting season on people driving slow in the passing lane. If you are in the passing lane and are not passing someone, or are driving slower than someone within a 100 hundred yards you are fair game.

It it worked in Texas we could expand the program to other states. Kind of like Charter Schools.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Uh, I think the results would change considerably if the Democratic opponent were anyone but Grey Davis. That was a fairly unique situation.

I find myself in an odd situation here: I agree with Spanky on this one. Not that a moderate Republican would win in a landslide or anything, but that a moderate republican would make a race against a decent democrat at least interesting.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Uh, I think the results would change considerably if the Democratic opponent were anyone but Grey Davis. That was a fairly unique situation.

Wilson (our last pro-choice Republican governor) always blew out the competition. But when we run pro-life candidates they get blown out (Lungren, Simon etc.).

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Thanks for the tip. I actually have had Penske on virtual ignore for a few months. Among other things, I find that scrolling past his posts makes getting thru the board about 10 times faster.

I wouldn't have noticed today's discussion but for reading Wonk's posts to Penske, in which Wonk made a point that I very much agree with. Of course, it can't be for any reason other than the fact that Wonk and I just can't read.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...-ammonium.html

I wonder if RT or SS or them knew this guy? Oklahoma is right up next to Texas.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Why do you people act like fried matzoh is good? my FIL is like, "every year I can't wait for Passover for the fried Matzoh." And I'm like, do you look forward to prostrate exams?

And if you really like them (either of them) why only do them annually? there is no religous reason not to indulge more frequently is there?

I like fried matzo, but I recognize that it's not something everybody loves. I also eat it throughout the year, usually with lox and onions.

Now you explain mortadella, ok?