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Old 04-27-2022, 07:59 PM   #11
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Song of the Day

Not to my half of the conversation.

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$50k per month is a lot of money, objectively, to most Americans.
So fucking what? Lots of people earn $50K a month to do lots of things, and it isn't newsworthy. The fact that he's Joe Biden's son doesn't make it newsworthy either.

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AND, the FBI is investigating Hunter.
So fucking what? Maybe Hunter Biden has been lying about his assets to get loans, but that wouldn't be not newsworthy either.

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Let me ask you this: If Chelsea Clinton, or a Trump or Obama kid, were discovered to be doing what Hunter did, and the FBI decided to start investigating it (as it did starting in 2019), would that have been a newsworthy story?
Clinton or Obama kids no, because they were private citizens, and also minors. For the Trump kids, depends on which ones, because some of them became involved in the government and Trump's business in a way that makes what they do newsworthy, depending on what the allegations are.

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2. That Trump tried to push the story does not render it non-newsworthy.

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The definition of newsworthy is objective, not what you or I think.
There is no "objective definition of newsworthy" on this or any other planet. We are having a conversation about what the term means, which is why my opinion is material. You say that the word means nothing -- anything people want to hear is, ipso facto, newsworthy. That is not how any journalist sees their job, although the free market keeps pushing them that way. I wasn't the first person to put out that by your definition, porn is newsworthy, which no one thinks. It's not "newsworthy" because it's not "worth" -- in the sense of having intrinsic value -- being in the "news" -- which is not everything that happens in the world, but a subset of the things that we all think people should know about.

The whole origin of this story should make any sane person think the whole thing is bogus. After other Trump/Giuliani efforts to smear Joe Biden by fabricating dirt on his son, a laptop purportedly abandoned by Hunter Biden in a repair shop for a long time falls into Rudy Giuliani's hands and then is given to the New York Post, which runs credulous stories about what's on it. Really? Really? Do you remember what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine? Under these circumstances, no one should think for a second that anything found on that computer is authentic, although surely much of it is.

If someone lies to you, do you trust them the next time?
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