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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Just for the moment, assume with me that he did lie. If so, why is it that you think Clinton should have been prosecuted for lying under oath, but that Bush's lies -- albeit not under oath -- are just water under the bridge? Do you just assume that our leaders lie all the time, except when they're under oath? If so, that's pretty pathetic.
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Clinton looked straight into the camera and said "I did not have sex with that women". I could care less. Doesn't bother me. There are many things I want out of a president, but being honest, especially when it comes to national security, is not one of them.
What is pathetic is you expect a president to be honest all the time. A president that was obsessed with the truth would be a very bad president, and it shows a shocking lack of sophistication on you part that you don't understand that.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If the war was a screaming success right now -- I know that's hard to imagine, but try -- I don't think you'd be saying, so Bush won the war, big deal; he still needs to make the case for the rest of his program on its own merits.
If the only question on the table is, what do we do with the Iraq mess, maybe so. But we live in a democracy, and that's not the only question on the table.
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No it is not the only question on the table, but when it comes to the Iraq war, the only question on the table is what should we do now. The fact that the Dems are bringing up other issues about the war shows they are putting their own political agenda above the welfare of the Iraqi people and our soldiers who are in harms way. Their creation of this myth about Bush lying is only helping the enemy.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Please think about the role of the opposition in a democracy. If need be, read Chuck Hagel's most recent speech. (He strikes me as your kind of guy.)
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The problem here is that I have thought about it and you clearly have not put much thought into it. Hopefully my above comments will make you see the error in your thinking.
P.S. When you make statements like this "Please think about the role of the opposition in a demcracy" I hope you are jokeing around, because if not it shows a shocking combination of ignorance and arrogance. If you are trying to make a point: make it. There are many people whose advice I would entertain on what to think about, but it shocks me to think that you would think you are one of those people.
