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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
It is when you post like this that you are at your most offensive.
[I'd say, any other comments, pro or con?]
I just said that I don't think Stalin truly believed that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few. I am of the opinion that he was (among other things) opportunistic, power-hungry, and quite a bit megalomaniacal. OTOH, as Bilmore argued, he may also (or instead) have been a true believer.
Go fuck yourself.
S_A_M
ETA: I am not and have never been even a socialist, much less a communist, but I have to say this: The Soviet Union was not "the logical extension of the communist philosophy" any more that the U.S.A. is "the logical extension" of the writings of John Locke.
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When you combine Scientific materialism and dictatorship of the prolitariate all communist atrocities that followed were forseable. When you have an elite that has full dictatorial power and believes that there are no "natural rights" and they must engineer society to increase the material benefits to all and it is OK to sacrifice individuals for the common good, that is a recipe for mass slaughter.
When you like at human beings as cells of the state body politics there will always be lots of cancerous cells that need to be exterminated.
It is only when each cell has rights that are given by a higher power (as opposed to other cells) that there is no excuse to liquidate cells for the common good.
Lenin, the first communist ruler, instituted mass liquidations, concentration camps and a complete suspension of all civil liberties. This was all perfectly aligned with communist philosophy and every communist ruler since just followed his lead. The result: hundreds of millions of executions. In other words more people intentionally killed by their own government that are alive in the whole United States today.
