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Old 09-26-2005, 05:28 PM   #11
Hank Chinaski
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Originally posted by Gattigap
From a brief review, I realize that I was misattributing bilmore's perspective on torture to you. I apologize for that.

bilmore's take was that "shit happens" in war, and that anyone's evocation of concern about torture that happens during that war is a whiny piece of shit, a Democrat simply out to get Our Leader, and someone focusing far too much on a couple of guys in Abu G. Fresh evidence suggesting that few of bilmore's precepts may actually be true inspired this post.

Club, for his part, took a slightly different tact in arguing that in certain circumstances, torture was no problem.

Your response, beyond general scorn for those concerned about the issue, seemed to revolve around a couple of points: (1) that yes, let's punish those responsible, but you had severe doubts about anyone over the rank of Sgt. really being found responsible, and (2) torture by American military personnel, while in itself wrong, can OTOH be just fine if the blood is smeared on the walls of Kabul instead of Peoria.

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I believe my position was we should attend to investigating and punishing as appropriate. I think that is what happened.

The thing I didn't understand from you then was what you thought different should happen. You seemed to imply that the incident should point to something more dramatic- leave Iraq? torture some of us to make up? Fire Bush?

Oh, wait , now I remember. You didn't have any point beyond complaining. Business as usual.

Were you on the Kerry campaign?
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