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SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:33 PM

Waiting for Fitzgerald
 
Homer, pick a title

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Homer, pick a title
Waiting for Fitzgerald.

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2005 03:45 PM

A truly awesome public servant
 
Ignore the fact he's a Democrat, tapped by another Democrat, and just admire State Representative Rick Noreiga:
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Noriega, who returned to Texas from Afghanistan Aug. 2, had been trying to make dinner plans with Mayor Bill White when he got a call from the mayor's office on Aug. 31.

"I'm thinking we're going to decide if it's going to be Italian food or Mexican food," Noriega said.

Instead, the mayor asked Noriega to join in on an 8 a.m. logistics meeting the next day, saying he wanted to tap into the lieutenant colonel's military experience in preparing to house evacuees.

Noriega told White he'd do whatever was needed, although he didn't realize at the time the magnitude of the effort White wanted to put together.

Noriega arrived at the convention center at 11 a.m. on Sept. 2. By 6 p.m., the George R. Brown was operational, with nearly 1,000 beds set up and a team of plumbers working to install 80 showers.

The next morning, the shelter was up and running.

"There's a lot of anxiety when you see buses roll up and no one knows what to expect," Noriega said. "This is a four-star shelter. It's been quite remarkable."

[...]

Manning the shelter is a round-the-clock duty. Noriega has only been home once in the past 12 days.

And as soon as he and his wife, Melissa, put their son to bed and were enjoying some quiet time, the phone rang. It was a conference call with the Red Cross, which lasted until after 1 a.m.

[...]

White tapped Noriega to run the facility just as he was about to return to his job at CenterPoint Energy.

The mayor asked CenterPoint's CEO if Noriega could be assigned to the evacuee effort at the convention center for 30 days.

"I still have a mission to serve," Noriega said.

Noriega breaks the mission into phases: The first was taking care of evacuees' immediate needs. Last week was focused on social services. This week he is in "demobilization," preparing to close the shelter as guests — that's what they call evacuees at the convention center — return to their homes or become Houstonians.

Gattigap 09-14-2005 03:57 PM

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Penske
Notwithstanding my obviously facetious post, I have no problem condemning Helms' statement. It's exactly the thing I was talking about in my earlier post about the Dimwits degradation of decorum and respect for institution in our society. And further, it may have violated the statute in question. It appears that the Secret Service investigated the Helms trheat and their was no recommendation for prosecution. There should have been a censure.

As there should be for Landrieu. Can you admit that, or is Ty the only liberal here with any integrity?
Sure, if you're happy to admit that the failure of Republicans to call for Helms being jailed (as you have for Landrieu) constitutes an equivalent failure, and contribution to the degradation and respect for institutions in our society.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Waiting for Fitzgerald.
I don't understand what this means.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't understand what this means.
egad, do I need it to be babyjesus this, babyjesus that?

Godot/Fitzgerald
eternal wait
bunch of bullshit while doing so.

Hank Chinaski 09-14-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't understand what this means.
Wait. i thought we made a rule that you can't win a K race with a "filler" post. If a non-substantive post goes in at 5000, isn't 5001 supposed to get the gold?

Shape Shifter 09-14-2005 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
egad, do I need it to be babyjesus this, babyjesus that?
VLADIMIR:
Ah yes, the two thieves. Do you remember the story?
ESTRAGON:
No.
VLADIMIR:
Shall I tell it to you?
ESTRAGON:
No.
VLADIMIR:
It'll pass the time. (Pause.) Two thieves, crucified at the same time as our Saviour. One—
ESTRAGON:
Our what?
VLADIMIR:
Our Saviour. Two thieves. One is supposed to have been saved and the other . . . (he searches for the contrary of saved) . . . damned.
ESTRAGON:
Saved from what?
VLADIMIR:
Hell.
ESTRAGON:
I'm going.
He does not move.
VLADIMIR:
And yet . . . (pause) . . . how is it –this is not boring you I hope– how is it that of the four Evangelists only one speaks of a thief being saved. The four of them were there –or thereabouts– and only one speaks of a thief being saved. (Pause.) Come on, Gogo, return the ball, can't you, once in a while?
ESTRAGON:
(with exaggerated enthusiasm). I find this really most extraordinarily interesting.
VLADIMIR:
One out of four. Of the other three, two don't mention any thieves at all and the third says that both of them abused him.
ESTRAGON:
Who?
VLADIMIR:
What?
ESTRAGON:
What's all this about? Abused who?
VLADIMIR:
The Saviour.
ESTRAGON:
Why?
VLADIMIR:
Because he wouldn't save them.
ESTRAGON:
From hell?
VLADIMIR:
Imbecile! From death.
ESTRAGON:
I thought you said hell.
VLADIMIR:
From death, from death.
ESTRAGON:
Well what of it?
VLADIMIR:
Then the two of them must have been damned.
ESTRAGON:
And why not?
VLADIMIR:
But one of the four says that one of the two was saved.
ESTRAGON:
Well? They don't agree and that's all there is to it.
VLADIMIR:
But all four were there. And only one speaks of a thief being saved. Why believe him rather than the others?
ESTRAGON:
Who believes him?
VLADIMIR:
Everybody. It's the only version they know.
ESTRAGON:
People are bloody ignorant apes.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 04:10 PM

2008
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Wait. i thought we made a rule that you can't win a K race with a "filler" post. If a non-substantive post goes in at 5000, isn't 5001 supposed to get the gold?
you'd have to delete posts to get that result. Who are you, Ty?

BTW, why would Hillary introduce a bill setting up a Katrina Commission? story

I thought she was from New York?

And, on that count, why would I (living in DC) get a fundraising letter from her Senate campaign? (Don't even know the threshold answer to that one--probably cheaper to mail to everone in DC that figure out who's a registered democrat)

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
[dialog]
shouldn't that be about 20 posts? And include pictures?

Shape Shifter 09-14-2005 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
shouldn't that be about 20 posts? And include pictures?
You're just trying to get Ty to delete me.

Spanky 09-14-2005 04:14 PM

Slippery Slope - my favorite
 
Penske

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It absolutely does. The liberals seek to throw out any sense of morality, decency, and decorum, because any lit bit of it threatens the boundaries of their faux-intellectually elite rude boorishness.

Its like the NARAL strategery on abortion. Abortions in the 39th week?!!? We can't prohibit those, its the woman's right to choose. Any infringement is a slippery slope. Disgusting.

___________________________________________

Kind of like the NRA position with gun control. "If we outlaw cop kiling bulletes (armour piercing bullets) eventually they will ban all hand guns".

Nut Penske 09-14-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You're just trying to get Ty to delete me.
No, that sounds relatively interesting. I'm willing to return the ball* on those.



* This phrase should be used wherever possible. It is a very fecund phrase.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 04:18 PM

Dikes or civil liberties
 
Which would you rather have?

Netherlands to track everything about everyone in massive database

Spanky 09-14-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account

Its like the NARAL strategery on abortion. Abortions in the 39th week?!!? We can't prohibit those, its the woman's right to choose. Any infringement is a slippery slope. Disgusting.
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Aren't you confident they'll just rot in hell for this? Why do we need to regulate?

Spanky?

______________________________________________

Why do I feel like my mother is calling me?

What did I do?

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2005 04:19 PM

Dikes or civil liberties
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Which would you rather have?

Netherlands to track everything about everyone in massive database
I wonder where they put the bar code tattoos.

Shape Shifter 09-14-2005 04:22 PM

Slippery Slope - my favorite
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
Kind of like the NRA position with gun control. "If we outlaw cop kiling bulletes (armour piercing bullets) eventually they will ban all hand guns".
That is the position of the NRA. I think NARAL's position on late term abortions is somewhat different.

Spanky 09-14-2005 04:35 PM

Jesse Helms was a political Jerk.

He went around calling everyone communist and socialists when he was the biggest defender of Tobacco Subsidies in the Senate. The Tobacco policy of the Federal government would make the Politburo proud. The height of hypocracy.

I met him a few times when I worked on the hill. In person he was really nice.

Spanky 09-14-2005 04:36 PM

Slippery Slope - my favorite
 
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
That is the position of the NRA. I think NARAL's position on late term abortions is somewhat different.
Whatever. The Slippery Slope argument is the lamest argument ever and the NRA uses it incessantly. Makes me sick.

Spanky 09-14-2005 04:39 PM

Exclusionary Rule
 
I don't know where we are on this topic, but the exclusionary rules was the lamest idea ever. Pure stupidity. One of the worst moves the Supreme Court ever made.

Captain 09-14-2005 04:56 PM

Exclusionary Rule
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
I don't know where we are on this topic, but the exclusionary rules was the lamest idea ever. Pure stupidity. One of the worst moves the Supreme Court ever made.
While I agree that it's a bizarre decision in a lot of ways, I think the court forced itself into a corner by eliminating other ways of redressing constitutional violations. What good is a constitutional prohibition on an invasion of privacy (an improper search and seizure, for example) without some penalty for a violation of that right? If the court won't mess with sovereign immunity, then the government can't really be held accountable to the constitution, can it? And what good is a constitution that a Government can ignore?

So they latched on to the only remedy left.

But to fix the problem, I think we have to fix sovereign immunity.

(Sorry if this is repetitive, but I think the train of thought had gotten buried before).

Secret_Agent_Man 09-14-2005 05:05 PM

Good Times There Are Not Forgotten . . .
 
Since RT was kind enough to put this fine image on the LawTalkers server, I can now bring you this touching image of the recent Bush family vacation.

http://www.lawtalkers.com/bushvaca.jpg


S_A_M

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 05:11 PM

Exclusionary Rule
 
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Originally posted by Captain
While I agree that it's a bizarre decision in a lot of ways, I think the court forced itself into a corner by eliminating other ways of redressing constitutional violations. What good is a constitutional prohibition on an invasion of privacy (an improper search and seizure, for example) without some penalty for a violation of that right? If the court won't mess with sovereign immunity, then the government can't really be held accountable to the constitution, can it? And what good is a constitution that a Government can ignore?

So they latched on to the only remedy left.

But to fix the problem, I think we have to fix sovereign immunity.

(Sorry if this is repetitive, but I think the train of thought had gotten buried before).
i suspect that Rehnquist would not have flinched to get rid of the exlusionary rule, on the basis that an action in tort would sound, even if sovereign immunity could be invoked.

Captain 09-14-2005 05:16 PM

Exclusionary Rule
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
i suspect that Rehnquist would not have flinched to get rid of the exlusionary rule, on the basis that an action in tort would sound, even if sovereign immunity could be invoked.
And, of course, the family of the deceased can always seek an injunction to prevent the government from killing their beloved again.

There may come a time when a majority of the Supreme Court are willing to let the 4th and 5th amendments become dead letters, much as the 9th has become.

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 05:46 PM

Joke
 
Q: What is George W. Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade?

A: He really doesn't care how people got out of New Orleans.

Spanky 09-14-2005 05:50 PM

Dikes or civil liberties
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I wonder where they put the bar code tattoos.
Call me naive, but the government doesn't scare me that much. It is private companys that have the information that scares me. It is the fact that EDS has tracked every purchase I have ever made and knows my spending habits better than myself.

My NRA friends say that it is good to have an armed citizenry in case the government becomes autocratic. First of all, I just don't see our country turning into a dictatorship. The citizenry is not armed in Western Europe and they still have their rights. Second of all, if our government decides to start abusing our rights, a Smith and Wesson ain't going to be much good against the 101st Airborne Division. When Janet Reno and the ATF show up at my door, I am coming out with my hands up.

What does scare me is these militias or drug gangs getting a hold of an AK 47 and blowing my head off. That is what I fear.

baltassoc 09-14-2005 06:08 PM

Dikes or civil liberties
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I wonder where they put the bar code tattoos.
Nah. Too inefficient and subject to error. Subdermal RFIDs.

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-14-2005 06:08 PM

Dikes or civil liberties
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
My NRA friends say that it is good to have an armed citizenry in case the government becomes autocratic. First of all, I just don't see our country turning into a dictatorship. The citizenry is not armed in Western Europe and they still have their rights. Second of all, if our government decides to start abusing our rights, a Smith and Wesson ain't going to be much good against the 101st Airborne Division. When Janet Reno and the ATF show up at my door, I am coming out with my hands up.
Why are you afraid of Janet Reno? If she comes to your door, she'll likely be driving a pickup truck, and she won't have the ATF with her. Perhaps you mean Alberto "Torquemada" Gonzales?

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What does scare me is these militias or drug gangs getting a hold of an AK 47 and blowing my head off. That is what I fear.
Actually, given the myriad of ways to go, that wouldn't be so bad. Quick, relatively painless. Not that I wouldn't want to have a say in the timing, though.

futbol fan 09-14-2005 06:32 PM

Joke
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Q: What is George W. Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade?

A: He really doesn't care how people got out of New Orleans.
http://67.18.37.18/1642/181/emo/ponder2.gif

http://67.18.37.18/1642/181/emo/nono.gif

:mad:

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 06:46 PM

Dikes or civil liberties
 
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Spanky
First of all, I just don't see our country turning into a dictatorship. ....
Travel up the Penninsula more often ask the random guy on the street what he thinks about this.

He'll tell you it already has.

The Larry Davis Experience 09-14-2005 07:43 PM

I recall that a long time ago someone on this board had posted some links to websites discussing the arguments disputing the existence of global warming. Can anyone point me in that direction? I could do a general google search but I'm hoping a poster might suggest a site that that they think is particularly persuasive.

I saw The Day After Tomorrow on tv a few weeks ago and started laughing at how much that movie must piss off some folks here.

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2005 07:56 PM

My guess is that the next motion that John Bolton makes at the UN is to ban cameras from summit meetings from now on.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 08:08 PM

Joke
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Q: What is George W. Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade?

A: He really doesn't care how people got out of New Orleans.
LOL. Good one.

eta: merde! STP!!

ltl/fb 09-14-2005 08:28 PM

What does that say? I think I might need to go to the bathroom blah blah blah?

notcasesensitive 09-14-2005 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
What does that say? I think I might need to go to the bathroom blah blah blah?
"Is this possible?" I think is the last line. Damn fucking liberals don't even want to allow Bush a bathroom break. Not while New Orleans is flooded.

ltl/fb 09-14-2005 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
"Is this possible?" I think is the last line. Damn fucking liberals don't even want to allow Bush a bathroom break. Not while New Orleans is flooded.
I would think given the condition of that water in NO, you could just pee while wading. Though it's not polite to do it in the boat if rowing.

ETA I think I remember from handwriting analysis a long time ago that mixing caps and lowercase is a sign of bad things.

Sidd Finch 09-14-2005 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Jesse Helms was a political Jerk.

He went around calling everyone communist and socialists when he was the biggest defender of Tobacco Subsidies in the Senate. The Tobacco policy of the Federal government would make the Politburo proud. The height of hypocracy.

I met him a few times when I worked on the hill. In person he was really nice.
He also had a penchant for supporting baby-killers and random murderers in Africa.

Sidd Finch 09-14-2005 08:54 PM

Joke
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Q: What is George W. Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade?

A: He really doesn't care how people got out of New Orleans.
Yayyyyy! Slave is funny again!!!

Spanky 09-14-2005 09:02 PM

I don't get the bid deal.
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I would think given the condition of that water in NO, you could just pee while wading. Though it's not polite to do it in the boat if rowing.

ETA I think I remember from handwriting analysis a long time ago that mixing caps and lowercase is a sign of bad things.
I just read an article that said this would be the most talked about photo of the year:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001137252

What????????? I don't get the big deal. Won't this photo be forgotten tomorrow?

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 09:09 PM

I don't get the bid deal.
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
I just read an article that said this would be the most talked about photo of the year:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001137252

What????????? I don't get the big deal. Won't this photo be forgotten tomorrow?
that is the biggest who gives a fucking shit in the world. Everyone has to go to the bathroom sometime. These liberals will put no bounds on the level that they will sink to in their psuedo-intellectually smug arrogance to attempt to debase the office of the President and the man who rightfully occupies it.

Below's the photo that will end up being the most talked about of the year. It is the evidence of Nagin's culpability in the deaths and misery of tens of thousands.

http://www.wnd.com/images2/KatrinaBuses2.jpg


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