1. No, the Puritans wouldn't have approved. They would have solved the debate by hanging every biologist for withcraft. The Puritans are not a measuring stick for anything except proving by example how horrible life can be when an entire culture believes in idiot dogma like... you guessed it... creationism.

2. Because its science, not religion. A scientific discovery which disproves religion does not become a religion itself. It remains, to the extreme frustration of fundamentalists, just a fact. You're trying to turn science into a competing religion. You really think anyone here is going to let you get away with a trick that transparant? The fact that you have to use such sleight of hand to even stay afloat in this debate says something about the position you've taken, doesn't it?

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Just knowing it is out there is motivation to raise (or lower) the bar accordingly in the future.

I agree with Hank's posit, and so does the babyjesuschristsuperstar. Woe unto those who don't.

Penske. certainly the Bilbe directs us to try and bring the sinners around. But at some point, when it is clear they will not move, when it is clear they mock us, Do we not run the danger of becoming a benefit to their sins? Might it be better if the right thinkers leave this PB and go elsewhere? Perhaps RT would consider a PB limited to those who do believe?

Aren't they the genesis of your beloved Separation of church and state?

I started a blog. I imagine soon I will be selling t-shirts and coffee mugs on it.

Today, at Mass, one of the scriptures cited by the babyjesuschristsuperstar's representative was Romans 8:38,39:

"For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ BabyJesus our Superstar"

I imagine that the definition of "things present, nor things to come" includes the hatefully ignorant faux-intellectual elitist snobs of the looney left who would mock and naysay that which is true and the font of the Universal Moral Code.

Feel the love.

Soon, Hank will distance himself from this comment, asserting that by making this snarky comment, he wasn't implicitly endorsing a religion, no, no religion at all, nor suggesting that anyone criticizing religion was a lefty pinko commie worshipping the evils of secular humanism (not at all!), but instead was merely suggesting that by saying that old-line Puritans would've burned biologists, Sebby and other liberals are indulging in their own brand of stereotyping and intolerance that Sebby finds so repulsive in others.

Over/under is 2.5 days.

The intolerance, bias, prejudice and hate of the looney left against and of God, the babyjesus, religion and morality is obvious to anyone with 20/20 vision observing the attempts of said looney left to destroy the foundations of American culture. Thankfully Hank is on the frontlines of the patriotic movement to turn back this evil tide.

In an effourt to bridge the gap of intolerance, I am inviting a cadre of leftists to my home for wine and cheese next week. The first person to invoke the bias and hate of the loonie left will be escorted out at the butt end of the exercise of my Second Amendment rights.

I'll take 1.5, and I'll bet you my killer seats in purgatory. 50 yard line... you see the babyjesussuperstar run the qb sneak up close and personal.

The babyjesi don't swing that way, nttawwt, but we appreciate and are flattered by your "proposition".

No, they're not. They left England to avoid persecution, and then came to America and practiced exactly the persecution they left to avoid. The Puritans are the true mentors of the unwashed literalists littering the country with their fundamentalist idiocy.

The separation of church and state was nailed by Jefferson, I believe.

Bullshit. Your line's for shit and nobody's ever open. Peter can't run a short pattern (terrible wheels) and the Holy Ghost has hands like a blacksmith. He never met a pass he couldn't drop. If the bjss didn't run those sneaks, you'd have no fucking offense.

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It's interesting that while you previously expressed an interest in box seats in hell, you have now upgraded yourself to purgatory (a fate I suggested for you not so long ago, which was met with your scoffs). Good to see you are coming around Sebby. The babyjesus has penetrated you, sts, iyw. Keep feeling the love and soon you can join Us on the light side.....the right side.

To be honest, I don't understand football allusions. I avoid TV on the Lord's Day.

Questions evolution where it has no evidence? Why do you focus on evolution? The problem is that evolution has a host of critics that dervie their objections purely from the religious beliefs and try and cloak them in science. So any objections to evolution are immediately suspect.

There are a multitude of other theories in other science classes that have many more problems than evolution. If you are going to start looking into theories that should not be taught you need to start in a place where the evidence is far less conclusive. For example: How the dinasours became extinct or how humming birds fly.

If you are going to point out gaps in evolutionary theories you need to cite some scientific article that points out such gaps. And it can't be a Ty cite (a clearly biased source like a manuscripts out of Liberty University). I think you will find such Gaps have been pointed out by religious laymen and not experts.

As far as Global Warming is concerned, I have no problem with a class that cites statistics of the earth getting warmer. However, the fact that the earth is going to continue to get warmer is not a fact. And no science class would ever teach that. There are no facts about the future only predictions. And as long as Global Warming is taught as a prediction, I have no problem with that.

If the majority of climatologists think the earth is going to get warmer, then they can say that in class.

But concerning the past and evolution, certain sub - theories of evolutionary theory have less evidence than others, but as far as I know, there isn't a statistically signicant number of legitimate biologists, Geneticists or evolutioninsts that think man did not evolve some other primate and that all complicated lifeforms on earth did not evolve from single celled animals.

Am I wrong?

Is the former Pope (JP II) burning in hell for his acknowledgement of the truth of evolution?

My free trial of the time travel software ends next Thursday. To extend it I need 1 Million $. The great thing is that if you guys raise 25K in your time and put it in the bank it will be 1 million in my time.

Anybody want to volunteer to match funds?

Wait. Spanky is a Penske sock?

Sam. remember You were wondering why I have become so caustic.

This bothers you worse than other dudes posting about your wife/mom? Hunh.

You go to MASS, boy?

And I thought you were an upstanding, God-abiding Heartland Republican.

God forbid I actually look something up -- but I think not (at least not in the way you suggest).

IIRC, some of the Puritan colonies were not only quite religious, but near theocracies, in the 17th Century. Didn't they ban Catholics? Thus encouraging the settlement of what became Maryland, I think.

S_A_M

So . . . the originator of the Gilligan post can't take it?

S_A_M

I apologized for that unacceptable behavior and have sworn off hurtful posts. It has been years since I made a Gilligan post. and I thought everyone said they were stupid. ARe you saying they hit their mark?

Some seemed to, and some were damn funny.

However, the schtick was overused.

S_A_M

P.S. Are you suggesting that Gattigap's post hit its mark?

As well as Rhode Island. Well, not Catholics in Rhode Island, but dissenters.

The Catholic history of Maryland is still being felt, in particular in their paternalistic divorce laws.

But are you optimistic?

no. I couldn't give a shit. My most overused schtick is that I am bothered by anything said here.

Depends, do you think the evolution thing is a lesser included charge in the altar boy thing?

American money?

What's odd is that the posts seem to bother him more than the actual tapping of his wife's arse. Apparently he is a progressive like that. I.R.L.

Word is you always finish before her too.

Oftentimes, I ring the bell on the first go round before her, but when put in the context of multiple multiples for each of us over several hour interludes, that first shot is but a drop in the bucket, sts, npi.

Stop Rape! BREAKING!!!!
 

WILLEY AND BROADDRICK SPEAK OUT! RAPISTS MOCK VICTIMS!!

Dateline: Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) October 19, 2005 -- The spokesman for former President, rapist and serial sexual abuser Bill Clinton derided the upcoming visit to the Clinton Library by sexual assault victims Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey, according to recently published reports. The duo plans to tour the Library on October 26 with attorney Candice E. Jackson to promote awareness of Bill and Hillary Clinton's treatment of women and to call for donations to groups that fight domestic violence. Jackson -- who is a survivor of rape -- earlier this year authored a book that alleged abuses of power by the Clintons against Broaddrick, Willey, and a half dozen other women.

The taunts by Clinton spokesman Jay Carson were published late last week in the New York Daily News' “Lowdown” feature.

This playful statement stands in stark contrast to the serious allegations made by Broaddrick and Willey. Broaddrick alleges that Clinton raped her during a conference in Little Rock in 1978, and Willey says that he sexually assaulted her when she worked in the White House in 1993. Both also charge that Clinton's inner circle -- including Hillary Rodham Clinton -- subsequently attempted to intimidate them into silence.

“It's disdainful that Bill Clinton's spokesman would mock Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey and then boast about the Library's attendance,” said Jackson. “It's not surprising, though -- this is the modus operandi that Team Clinton has always used to discredit, intimidate, and silence the women who've tried to shine a light on Clinton’s history of misogyny. Whether it means labeling accusers as 'trash looking for cash' or even sending thugs to scare them, apparently nothing is off limits.”

Jackson also noted the irony in Carson's statement given that US News & World Report earlier this year reported that the Clinton Library publicly overstated its attendance figures. [HE LIED]

Broaddrick, Willey, and Jackson also issued a public invitation to other women who claim to have been assaulted by Clinton to join them for the tour. Jackson noted that while researching her book she came across multiple accounts of women who were too intimidated to go public, prompting her to add: “We'd like to welcome any of the women who’ve been assaulted -- whether they have previously gone public or not -- to join us. We want to see the Library's version of Clinton's 'legacy' firsthand, and to make the public aware of any omissions.”

None of the women touring the Clinton Library are receiving sponsorships or financial consideration for the activity, and a portion of the proceeds from all sales of Jackson's book “Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine” are going to a charity that works to prevent domestic abuse.


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Stop Rape! BREAKING!!!!
 

Is there a link to what Carson said, or did I miss it in there?

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Egg-sactly.

True soldiers in the War Against All Things Clinton would've taken the time to pull that quote and put it in the biggest font possible. Clearly, Penske's just phonin' it in at this point, worse than Alan Arkin in Glen Garry, Glenross.

Sad.

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I gave you the link to the whole piece. It is in there.

Here it is for your convenience:

The taunts by Clinton spokesman Jay Carson were published late last week in the New York Daily News' “Lowdown” feature. Carson is quoted as telling columnist Lloyd Grove that he had no concerns about Willey and Broaddrick's visit. The spokesman stated: “The Clinton Library has shattered all attendance records this year, and we're always happy to hear about new visitors.”

This playful statement stands in stark contrast to the serious allegations made by Broaddrick and Willey.................Jackson also noted the irony in Carson's statement given that US News & World Report earlier this year reported that the Clinton Library publicly overstated its attendance figures.

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Translation: I support rape and sexual harrassment and abuse in the office place (except by American soldiers doing it to Islamist terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Guantamo as an interrogation tactic-in that case I side with the enemy) and in fact think it's a big joke.

A woman got raped and beaten and was coerced after the fact into not reporting it.....another woman got sexually fondled at work by the aforesaid rapist.........ha ha ha ha ha LOL ha ha ha ha ha ROTFLMAO!!! They probably deserved it. Whores.

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The women's efforts seem misguided. If they are going to invite all of the other women molested by Clinton over the years to meet them at the library, the library's new attendance figures WILL shatter records.