Delay = RINO
 

I have posted on this subject many times before and it has been beaten to death. But I am of the conviction the only fiscal discipline in the past twenty years has come from fiscal conservative Repubs. There are bad Republicans on this but no good Dems. Clinton only helped reduce the deficit by raising taxes. It took a Republican congress to reduce spending. The recession caused the bulk of the deficits we have now. No matter how bad it is now, it will always be worse with Dems. Demns only talk fiscal conservatisim to attack Repubs but they never act on it when they are in power.

Our Federal government spends too much on too many programs. There is never any reason to raise taxes. The way to fiscal sanity is through spending cuts. If there is one thing Dems can't do is cut spending.

Delay = RINO
 

Well, all I can say is you have a real problem with the social conservatives and the neocons, combined with the tax cut zealots. Dems are pretty sensitive these days to the tax-and-spend label hung on them by the GOP - witness Pelosi's willingness to forego the transportation money for the Bay Area. Were I you, I might reconsider my "it will always be worse with Dems" attitude - I submit there may be more fertile ground for a fiscal conservatism message there than you think.

Delay = RINO
 

Have you factored in the economic costs from the terrorist attacks that seem to flow from Democratic Admins?

Delay = RINO
 

I like Neocons. I have no problem with them. I don't mind the tax cut zealots so much. I just think they should push through the spending cuts before the tax cuts, but I agree taxes are too high.

Pelosi is just playing politics. The problem is that most Dems deep down think government is the answer to many problems where I don't think it is. Free trade is the perfect example. The Dems controlled congress for decades and they never balanced a budget. It took a Republican congress to balance the budget. The recession pulled us out of it, but we will see if we get back. But if the Dems controll congress forget about fiscal sanity.

Delay = RINO
 

Many, many Rs act like this too -- they just don't acknowledge that that is what they are doing. So to me, it's worse, because they are hypocritical about the issue.

It may be slightly different because they think that the gov't should spend money for things that benefit them (e.g. a bajillion dollars for highway funds in DeLay's district) but not for things that benefit others.

I prefer people who are kind of not into personal sacrifice for anyone than people who are really into personal sacrifices -- but only for other people.

Counteroffer
 

Fuck that.

For a bottle of Johnny Blue and a box of cigars, I'll just delete both of you.

Much cheaper option.

Delay = RINO
 

This is rich - coming from a party now dominated by Howard Dean and which last ran for President a French socialist named Jean Kerri

Delay = RINO
 

I'm OK with an R president if the house and senate are D.

Delay = RINO
 

2. Also the costs related to the Dems inability to appropriately utilise public transportation resources, like buses, in a disaster.

Delay = RINO
 

2. The thing is Spanky, you are the only one here really working in politics, so you know what's what. The liberal yahoos here are all ivy tower psuedo intellectual elitists. Their brand of thinking is fine, in the hyopthetic laboratory universe of Karl Marx and JM Keynes. Or course in practise their ideas are abject failures yet the dims still won't relent.

I have never met a group of people so unwilling to admit their ignorance and the danger it poses our republic.

Delay = RINO
 

I am okay with the government the electorate gives us. Its telling that it is all R and yet the dems still delusionally think that they are the mainstream.

Once Roberts knocks Roe out the box maybe that will shut them the fuck up for a while.

Delay = RINO
 

I agree with this, with a slight twist. I don't think they are thinking about it in terms of big government = good, but rather, big pork = staying in power.

Delay = RINO
 

Compassionate Conservatism = "conservatives" that are compassionate about spending money.

Delay = RINO
 

In a way, EVEN worse -- because then it's not about spending the money where it will do the most good for people/the country, it's about getting huge amounts of cash to build stuff or have programs where the stuff or the programs aren't even doing any good.

And, Slave, nice extremely selective quote from Spanky's post. The compassionate conservatives aren't even the bad ones -- more the ones who want to have price supports for the industry in their district, even though ostensibly they are in favor of free trade. Fuckers.

Delay = RINO
 

That's what I've been saying. Except its okay if even one is D. That's what drives me nuts with the disjointed messages the Dems display because I think it kills them in congressional races.

Are they strong on defense or are they strong on michael Moore- pick one.- but don't put Mike next to a former President and have them listen to sppeches on how strong on defense they are.