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05-12-2005 02:04 PM |
Quebec Separating
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Originally posted by Spanky
So if it had been a yes vote what would have happened? You said that there was all sorts of legal issues with the indiginous tribes. In addition, isn't Quebec completely intertwined with the rest of Canda through the health system and every other federal institutions. So the idea of succession is a little bit unrealistic. So what were the separatists planning if they won the referendum?
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My understanding is that the secessionists have put it about that Quebecers would keep their Canadian citizenship, the Canadian dollar, their Canadian pension and health benefits, and the province would remain part of NAFTA in the event of secession. The Can. (and re: NAFTA, US) gov'ts have said, basically, um, no, and you get to pay your portion of the national debt, and have to purchase all federal buildings, infrastructure & land you take with you. You are right that it is a stupid idea that wouldn't work. Doesn't mean they won't still vote for it. Frankly, if they were sane they wouldn't even vote for it - every time they do businesses flee Montreal, not wanting to risk being stuck in what would effectively become an indebted north-American banana republic.
Re: First Nations (I do like that name) land issues, the various indigenous tribes, not anxious to be stuck in a separate country with Francophone Canadians, have basically been arguing "If anyone has a claim to be a "unique culture" and therefore have special rights, it ain't you assholes, so if secession is OK for you, then secession is not only OK generally but must be OK for us, and we can and will secede from you in turn." Which would potentially remove a huge amount of the land area (including much of the hydro power generation). Alternatively, I've heard some suggestions that Quebec, on seceeding, would only be entitled to take historically independent Quebec lands and would have to return all lands granted to the province by the central government - which would reduce Quebec to a few-mile wide strip along the St. Lawrence from Montreal to Quebec City (most of what is now Quebec was, I believe, Hudson's Bay Company land).
As per the legal issues, my understanding is that the gov'ts position is that a one-province referendum has no legal effect, and it would require a national referendum to effectively allow Quebec to secede. That's based on absolutely no independent knowledge, but I was told the Can. Sup. Ct. had a ruling to that effect last time there was a vote.
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