What are their thoughts on mules?

I have no problem believing Toronto is more tolerant than NYC, but what other areas in the US have you found to be noticably less racist? I thought we were doing pretty well here -- it's been a while since our last race riot.

Toronto = more diverse than American cities of equal size. Isn't Detroit of equal size? What is the African American population of Detroit? How about the African American population of Oakland?
What are these huge minority populations in Toronto that make it so diverse?

Interesting. I don't think you really understand the way Canada works. First off, it's not going to split apart because there are aboriginal land claims to most of Quebec. If Quebec were to try to secede, it would have to litigate all the land claims and that would take forever. It just ain't gonna happen.

Also, I have no idea if your encyclopedia is correct, but it could be, but in Canada you have to look at the cities. As DS pointed out, the boonies are a strange place. Most people live in the big cities, and they are probably more ethnically diverse than the cities here. Canada is, by and large, a liberal-leaning country with a strong left-wing. People there can disagree with concepts like gay marriage and legalization of marijuana and RU-486 in their head, but will not oppose them politically. It's a different mindset than here. I haven't found too many Americans that are uncomfortable with something personally, but would vote for a party that advocated it.

I think the same thing occurs with tolerance of other minorities. I am not trying to say there is no racism. I just think that even if people think racist thoughts, their actions don't tend to reflect those thoughts and so by and large, people act in a more tolerant manner than they do here.

I'm not sure of the Western Canadian fringe party you speak of, but it is possible. The interior of BC is notorious for whackos.

In my experience, at least in the cities where I have lived and worked there, the people seem to be more tolerant than they do here. I never heard the slurs or the strong identification of a person as a certain way because of the ethnic group to which he/she belongs. Here, I hear it frequently, and it seems to be more widely accepted.

This is from this government website: http://www.gov.on.ca/FIN/english/dem...cs/cenhi6e.htm

Toronto is by far the most diverse Census Metropolitan Area (CMA) in Ontario. In 2001, 1.7 million people were visible minorities in this CMA, representing 36.8% of its population, 80% of the province’s visible minorities, and 15% of the total population of Ontario. In Canada, only Vancouver (36.9%) had the same high proportion of visible minorities.


When I got the 48% figure, they must have included non-visible minorities. I guess it is only 36.8 visible. Still, I would call that "significant."

I spend a lot of time in Quebec, and you are simply full of shit.

The idea that French Canadians and Anglo-Canadians are the same ethnic group is just silly - their language and history are different. There is some friction between them, but less than any other bi-national state I can think of, and at this point most Canadians view the succession issue as settled.

But within French Canada, even excluding the Anglos, there are significant minorities. 13% of the people in Montreal are "visibile minorities", ranging from ancestors of blacks who were escaping slavery in the US to immigrants from the Carribean. There are many other strong ethnic groups, and in the north the aboriginal groups (themselves diverse) constitute a very large percentage of the population.

As a whole, my sense is that there is greater diversity north of border, and that it is more harmonious. I cannot recall see a Canadian "hate crime" on the news up there, yet I've seen many here.

OK, please continue bashing Europe. That's OK.

I believe visible minorities don't include all hispanics, who are significant in Toronto (esp. from the Carribean). They also don't include aboriginals, but that's more significant in the boonies.

If Canada is so accepting of minorities, where are the ethnic minority governors of Canada? Where are the ethnic minority entrepenurs? How many ethnic minorities sit in Parliament?

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Just a suggestion . . .

As of 1993, , minorities (defined as those of origins other than French, British, Canadian or Aboriginal) made up 26% of the population in the study area and 24.7% of the elected officials.

Not bad for a group that includes many recent immigrants.

On minority entrepreneurs, many. I work with Canadian entrepreneurs of Chinese, South Asian, and Iranian extraction in the biotech area.

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You see the kind of shit Americans dish out? They don't even want to talk about Canadians.

Canadianist Fuck.

How many lynchings?

Trick question - I'm not falling for this one. There are no governors in Canada - they're premiers.

Unless you count the governor-general, Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson, who is Chinese.

Not sure what you mean by governor, but the former lieutenant-gov of Ontario, Lincoln Alexander, is black. Adrienne Clarkson, a woman of Asian descent, is the Governor-General. 71 out of 191 MPs are minorities. I looked up the MP number but the others are off the top of my head.

Anyhoo, this is getting boring.

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We have a lot of Canadians in my office. They are the butt of all office jokes, but they don't seem to care as long as their Molson is cold.