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Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I was not commenting on those issues. Please address the question at hand. Thanks.

Nice to see you no longer claim god for the Rs, though.
How about Clinton's impeachment? Much lower low than Libby.

Also, why do you think I abandoned the truth of the lord's grace. Everyone knows God and his son babyjesus are Rs. The demos are the ones who seek the low road of godless socialism. Although they respect radical Islam, no?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-28-2005 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Everyone knows God and his son babyjesus are Rs.
The Rs who cut social services for the needy and cut taxes on the wealthy, for whom it is easier to fit through the eye of a needle? Or are there other Rs to which you're referring?

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The Rs who cut social services for the needy and cut taxes on the wealthy, for whom it is easier to fit through the eye of a needle? Or are there other Rs to which you're referring?
I am talking about the Rs who have the moral clarity to support a culture of life, anti-bias and the UMC, i.e. people who understand racism, rape, state sanctioned murder are wrong and intolerable.

ltl/fb 10-28-2005 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The Rs who cut social services for the needy and cut taxes on the wealthy, for whom it is easier to fit through the eye of a needle? Or are there other Rs to which you're referring?
It's bad enough that I got sucked in. Don't you go getting pulled into a fruitless conversation with the board equivalent of the off-the-medication-schizophrenic-having-a-psychotic-episode-on-top-of-schizophrenia homeless person shitting in Pony's vestibule.

ETA though, almost everyone here is arguably having symptoms of psychosis at times:

"One important and puzzling feature of psychosis is usually an accompanying lack of insight into the unusual, strange or bizarre nature of the person's experience or behaviour. Even in the case of an acute psychosis, sufferers may seem completely unaware that their vivid hallucinations and impossible delusions are in any way unrealistic."

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
It's bad enough that I got sucked in. Don't you go getting pulled into a fruitless conversation with the board equivalent of the off-the-medication-schizophrenic-having-a-psychotic-episode-on-top-of-schizophrenia homeless person shitting in Pony's vestibule.
People who have actually been prescribed anti-psychotics should not throw stones in the glass houses in which they live. What the non-medicated should ask themselves is why they support a party that supports rape, murder and racism and attempts to perpetrate rhetoric that implies that whatever Libby may have done exceeds those wrongs.

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb


"One important and puzzling feature of psychosis is usually an accompanying lack of insight into the unusual, strange or bizarre nature of the person's experience or behaviour. Even in the case of an acute psychosis, sufferers may seem completely unaware that their vivid hallucinations and impossible delusions are in any way unrealistic."
this explains the dimwits delusions that they are in the mainstream (notwithstanding Bush's mandatable victory on the babyjesuschristsuperstar's coattails).

ltl/fb 10-28-2005 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
People who have actually been prescribed anti-psychotics should not throw stones in the glass houses in which they live. What the non-medicated should ask themselves is why they support a party that supports rape, murder and racism and attempts to perpetrate rhetoric that implies that whatever Libby may have done exceeds those wrongs.
I am free to throw stones. No anti-psychotics. And I think we are in less danger from psychotics on medication than psychotics who delusionally think that there is nothing wrong with them and therefore they do not need treatment and don't get it.

Spanky 10-28-2005 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The Rs who cut social services for the needy and cut taxes on the wealthy, for whom it is easier to fit through the eye of a needle? Or are there other Rs to which you're referring?
Camels can't get through an eye of a needle and since everyone on this board is considered rich by any reasonable standard (in this world if you make six figures you are uberrich) we are all going to hell.

See you all in the fire pits.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-28-2005 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am talking about the Rs who have the moral clarity to support a culture of life, anti-bias and the UMC, i.e. people who understand racism, rape, state sanctioned murder are wrong and intolerable.
Oh, you mean the ones who supported a war against all arabs, using various torture techniques to advance the cause, and use other forms of killing to accomplish the mission? My mistake.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-28-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Camels can't get through an eye of a needle and since everyone on this board is considered rich by any reasonable standard (in this world if you make six figures you are uberrich) we are all going to hell.

See you all in the fire pits.
Penske tithes. Don't you?

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I am free to throw stones. No anti-psychotics. And I think we are in less danger from psychotics on medication than psychotics who delusionally think that there is nothing wrong with them and therefore they do not need treatment and don't get it.
No anti-psychotics is different than non-compliant with one's meds. Although anti-psychotics and psyschotropic meds tend to supress the sex drive and that would ruin your noirish image.

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Camels can't get through an eye of a needle and since everyone on this board is considered rich by any reasonable standard (in this world if you make six figures you are uberrich) we are all going to hell.

See you all in the fire pits.
I'll be the one wearing the skirt.

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Oh, you mean the ones who supported a war against all arabs, using various torture techniques to advance the cause, and use other forms of killing to accomplish the mission? My mistake.
Hmmmm, is that a defence of our radical Islamic enemy I detect? The bodies of the 3000 patriots from 9.11 must be simultaneously rolling over in their graves. Sad. You do realise that even though you give them aide and comfort the radical Islamics would still label you an infidel right?

Hank Chinaski 10-28-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Had Espy and Cisneros resigned before the indictments were issued?

Also, I'm not seeing how lying under oath to a grand jury is worse than lying under oath in a deposition.
Doesn't the highness of the office of the liar factor in? Every admin has had at least someone busted for lying.

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Penske tithes. Don't you?
I do. Not necessarily as a matter of religious obligation but rather to give back to my community and promote diversity, understanding and an end to the dimwitted bias of the liberal political dictatorship of the local government here. Unlike most of the limousine liberals who would seek to rape the wallets of the entrepreneurial classes in America for their own deluded vision of socialism, I seek to offer charity to give the poor in my community an opportunity to advance up the ladder of economic prosperity and leave the oppressive government sponsored plantation of entrenched poverty that the demo party has imposed upon them. In order to do that I gladly give freely of bountiful gifts of cashish and time.

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Doesn't the highness of the office of the liar factor in? Every admin has had at least someone busted for lying.

The Clinton administration? Cite please?

Spanky 10-28-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Penske tithes. Don't you?
I have may misread read the quote but I don't remember there being an exception for rich people that tithe. You rich you goin down.

Penske_Account 10-28-2005 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I have may misread read the quote but I don't remember there being an exception for rich people that tithe. You rich you goin down.
I don't tithe to absolve my sins, I tithe because the universal moral compass shows me that it is the right thing to do.

SlaveNoMore 10-29-2005 03:06 AM

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ltl/fb
Had Espy and Cisneros resigned before the indictments were issued?
Had they? I don't recall. Cite please.

Then again, they also were indicted for the "underlying" crimes. Libby is indicted for purportedly lying about a non-crime* And it's doubtful he'll be convicted, given the "he said, he said" evidence out there.

BTW- at a bar tonight, someone raised an excellent point. How the fuck can Russert, being the key witness against Libby, continue to report on this story?


*Don't miss my point - perjury is a horrible crime, and he should go down - big time - if he perjured himself.

SlaveNoMore 10-29-2005 03:08 AM

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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Penske tithes. Don't you?
Does he?

He also doesn't pay up on his bets.

Did the church got my steak dinner, cigar and 2 lap dances?

taxwonk 10-29-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Sen. Edward M Kennedy, D-Mass., said the indictment marked a "signifying a new low since Watergate in terms of openness and honesty in our government."


Also this low is above the low of a post-watergate US President who presents a false affidavit to a federal judge in a civil suit against the President in order to influence the judge's ruling on a material issue.

Also this low is above the low of a post-watergate US President who lies under oath during a deposition in a federal lawsuit.

How is lying to a grand jury not worse?

taxwonk 10-29-2005 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am talking about the Rs who have the moral clarity to support a culture of life, anti-bias and the UMC, i.e. people who understand racism, rape, state sanctioned murder are wrong and intolerable.

Racism as in a blanket condemnation of Islam?

Rape as in accepting unproven allegations as the truth to smear people who are not accused of the act?

Anti-bias as in accepting that if lying under oath is wrong, then lying under oath is wrong?

Universal Moral Code as in lying under oath is wrong, whether it's Bill Clinton or Scooter Libby?

Fucking hypocrite.

taxwonk 10-29-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Doesn't the highness of the office of the liar factor in? Every admin has had at least someone busted for lying.
We are a nation of laws, not men. The office is completely irrelevant.

Hank Chinaski 10-29-2005 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
We are a nation of laws, not men. The office is completely irrelevant.
Your post supports Penske's craziest "dem's are all apologists" rant. Go play catch with your kids or something, and stop this.

SlaveNoMore 10-29-2005 03:02 PM

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taxwonk
How is lying to a grand jury not worse?
How is it different?

taxwonk 10-29-2005 04:46 PM

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How is it different?
That was sort of my point.

Diane_Keaton 10-29-2005 05:46 PM

Anyone care to.....
 
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Diane_Keaton 10-29-2005 07:52 PM

Okay, I am....
 
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Diane_Keaton 10-29-2005 07:53 PM

Um kay, then
 
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G'Night
 
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Secret_Agent_Man 10-30-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Hmmmm, is that a defence of our radical Islamic enemy I detect?
No, that is a defense of American ideals and American values -- Ronnie's "shining city on a hill" -- the so-called "myth of American exceptionalism" which we were all brought up to believe.

I would have thought you still believed -- you squawk like it.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 10-30-2005 11:28 AM

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No, that is a defense of American ideals and American values -- Ronnie's "shining city on a hill" -- the so-called "myth of American exceptionalism" which we were all brought up to believe.

I would have thought you still believed -- you squawk like it.

S_A_M
Funny time!

I saw a George Carlin special on HBO, and he was revitalized. He was doing politics and seemed way younger and more alive than when I had last seen him.

He was companing about how the government is out of hand on abortion and was crazy into censoring TV and radio. He felt the administration was chopping into our personal freedoms left and right, and starting wars for no reason. I thought "well it's not original or funny, but at least he's coherent again."

Then he mentioned Reagan. Turns out the show was from the 80s. You guys are so clueless and blinder-visioned, that you just throw out the same tired complaints regardless of whether they make any sense at all.

Anyways, I was glad I wasn't on your side of the debate because if I was I'd have to admit how trite and basically empty in truth and value my entire political belief system had become.

Do you ever get bothered, or do you not ask yourself hard questions?

taxwonk 10-30-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Anyways, I was glad I wasn't on your side of the debate because if I was I'd have to admit how trite and basically empty in truth and value my entire political belief system had become.

Do you ever get bothered, or do you not ask yourself hard questions?
Every so often, I wonder what life would be like if I were a sociopath, utterly without compassion or concern for the welfare of anyone other than myself, dedicated to the sole proposition of preserving a level of privilege for myself.

Then I remember I'm a democrat, and I feel human again.

Hank Chinaski 10-30-2005 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Every so often, I wonder what life would be like if I were a sociopath, utterly without compassion or concern for the welfare of anyone other than myself, dedicated to the sole proposition of preserving a level of privilege for myself.

Then I remember I'm a democrat, and I feel human again.
Right! So you saw the show too?

Secret_Agent_Man 10-30-2005 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Anyways, I was glad I wasn't on your side of the debate because if I was I'd have to admit how trite and basically empty in truth and value my entire political belief system had become.

Do you ever get bothered, or do you not ask yourself hard questions?
I ask myself a number of hard questions, and I get bothered quite often.

You might not like my answers, or might come to a different conclusion if you possessed the desire or ability to engage in such an analysis, but you have no reason to think otherwise.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 10-30-2005 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I ask myself a number of hard questions, and I get bothered quite often.

You might not like my answers, or might come to a different conclusion if you possessed the desire or ability to engage in such an analysis, but you have no reason to think otherwise.

S_A_M
huh?

You say Penske is irrelevant because he brings up Clinton. You guys are recycling Reagan arguments. You lose- Reagan was the Century's 2nd best President.

Oh. and olive branch! I don't blame you! Robots don't know they are operating under a program.

Penske_Account 10-30-2005 11:55 PM

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Racism as in a blanket condemnation of Islam?


race: A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.

Remind me what the genetically transmitted physical characteristics distinguish radical Islamics from other humans (other than their sub human thirst for the blood of "infidels")???

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Originally posted by taxwonk

Rape as in accepting unproven allegations as the truth to smear people who are not accused of the act?

Anti-bias as in accepting that if lying under oath is wrong, then lying under oath is wrong?

Universal Moral Code as in lying under oath is wrong, whether it's Bill Clinton or Scooter Libby?

Fucking hypocrite.
It's sad that you are so blinded by the kool aide that you continue to seek a tortured parsing of the english language to defend a sociopathic perjurer, rapist and serial sexual abuser of women. Do you respect women as being equal?

Penske_Account 10-30-2005 11:59 PM

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We are a nation of laws, not men. The office is completely irrelevant.
If you truly believe that the intentional violation of the law by the PotUS is not more offensive to the people of this nation than a violation of those laws by an average citisen then you are deluded beyond hope.

Also, not all felons are subject to the same punishment......when a middle manager at Corporation X is charged with a felony is his license to be a middle manager at risk (as is a lawyer's license to practice)?????

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Your post supports Penske's craziest "dem's are all apologists" rant. Go play catch with your kids or something, and stop this.
2.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:01 AM

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That was sort of my point.
Your point was wide of the mark in missing its target.


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