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Penske_Account 10-03-2005 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
He chose expedience and self-advancement over the pursuit of the truth.
Yes. It did his career wonders.

sgtclub 10-03-2005 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Captain
Did either Brandeis or Warren have prior judicial experience? I believe both were heavily involved in politics and could be viewed as appointments driven by political payback or symbolism.
At the risk of an STP - are you kidding re Warren?

Penske_Account 10-03-2005 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Frankly, Troll, fuck off.
2. I can't believe that doofus came back for this schtick.

taxwonk 10-03-2005 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's not an issue of sympathy, its one of respect. Although in modern day America, liberals don't respect a work ethic, whether its one where someone makes $20 or $20M. To the left its an entitlement society.
Since you would prefer to raise the tax burden on those who work for a living in order to allow those who are lucky enough to be born into wealth to inherit more of it, wouldn't that make you the one who lacks respect for the work ethic and favors entitlement?

taxwonk 10-03-2005 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I do. The poor bastard's dead. You soulless prick.
Yeah, but if he left behind that much lettuce, think of the fucking time he had while he was here. We all gotta die some day.

Penske_Account 10-03-2005 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Since you would prefer to raise the tax burden on those who work for a living in order to allow those who are lucky enough to be born into wealth to inherit more of it, wouldn't that make you the one who lacks respect for the work ethic and favors entitlement?
I don't think so, everyone pays taxes on what they earn along the way. What I am saying is that it shouldn't be double taxed on teh event of death. You earn it, you pay taxes, you amass wealth-you should be able to pass it freely.

Replaced_Texan 10-03-2005 05:09 PM
from the SCOTUS blog
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Another unresolved question as of Monday morning is why President Bush felt a need to upstage the ceremony in which Chief Justice Roberts formally joined the Court. There was no apparent need for urgency, and the effect was to overwhelm Roberts' investiture by the news of Miers' nomination. It was not an exhibition of refined manners. And perhaps it served mainly to draw an even more vivid comparison between the two of them, to her disadvantage.

Penske_Account 10-03-2005 05:11 PM
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from the SCOTUS blog
Comparing her to Roberts is liking comparing W to Reagan.

baltassoc 10-03-2005 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Yeah, but if he left behind that much lettuce, think of the fucking time he had while he was here. We all gotta die some day.
This wasn't quite my read on your original statement.

I too, have no pity for someone who dies with $20 million. The sign of a life well lived should be that one's last check bounces. Dying with $20 mil is just a waste, and shows a decided lack of creativity in one's final years.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-03-2005 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
The resignations/firings were not symbolic gestures of protest. They were the result of those men being principled enough to do the jobs they were hired to do and try to uphold the law and serve teh interests of justice.

Bork, whore that he was, was not burdened by such a thing as a conscience. He chose expedience and self-advancement over the pursuit of the truth.
(A) They were surely gestures of protest. Symbolic? I think so, because they knew Cox would surely be fired in the end -- so their protest would have little or no practical effect in the short term.

In the mid to long term -- they had to know their resignations would harm Nixon immensely -- so if they had the intent to harm Nixon perhaps the gestures were not merely symbolic.

(B) You apparently speak out of ignorance, as well as extreme dislike for Bork. Mr. Richardson wrote a book (I think his biography) in which he is much kinder to Bork that you would seem to think is appropriate -- and set forth the basic facts as I recited them.

(C) It is hard for me to take your analysis seriously if you truly think that Bork is unprincipled and without a conscience. Seems the opposite to me (if anything, too strict an adherent to principle, without being sufficiently informed by reality).

S_A_M

SlaveNoMore 10-03-2005 05:19 PM
Because it doesn't get old
 
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taxwonk
I have no sympathy for anyone dying leaving a $20 million estate.
No mansion for me, I say "Fuck it"

No brand new Humvee, I say "Fuck it"

Penske_Account 10-03-2005 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by baltassoc
This wasn't quite my read on your original statement.

I too, have no pity for someone who dies with $20 million. The sign of a life well lived should be that one's last check bounces. Dying with $20 mil is just a waste, and shows a decided lack of creativity in one's final years.
Fuck. You have exposed an inconsistency in my self-centered narcisstic greedism. Fuck. Bastard. Having kids, regardless of paternity, has discombulated my amoral center.

eta: what if you unexpectedly become incapacited on the cusp of entering the period when you are going to blow it all on yourself?!!?

Sidd Finch 10-03-2005 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by taxwonk
I have no sympathy for anyone dying leaving a $20 million estate.

Depends how they die.

SlaveNoMore 10-03-2005 05:22 PM
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baltassoc
This wasn't quite my read on your original statement.

I too, have no pity for someone who dies with $20 million. The sign of a life well lived should be that one's last check bounces. Dying with $20 mil is just a waste, and shows a decided lack of creativity in one's final years.
What if the guy had $100M 2 days before he died, but he was down to only $20M having relied on Str8s picks?

Spanky 10-03-2005 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
At the risk of an STP - are you kidding re Warren?
The way I heard it was the Warren (then Governor of CA) delivered California for Eisenhauer in the primaries (by endorsing Eisenhauer) in return for the next supreme court opening.


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