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Penske_Account 10-27-2005 02:44 PM

Cooter, you are better than that
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You really think that 2 0r 3 current justices believe that the Social Security Act, OSHA (and by analogy numerous other government agencies) are unconstitutional?

S_A_M
I'm talking about her judicial philosophy generally. Also I don't think JRB's ideological musings are that .different than the founders, and certainly at least 25% of the current Justices (I am not counting the cowgirl) are disciples of the founders' thoughts.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-27-2005 02:45 PM

Cooter, you are better than that
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I'm talking about her judicial philosophy.
I don't understand the distinction you're drawing.

S_A_M

taxwonk 10-27-2005 02:47 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Just below disco and tab collars.
You're half-right. It's just above disco.

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 02:47 PM

Proposition 2
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You guys do both realize that my penis is larger than yours, right?

S_A_M
I compartmentalise my interest in sex from my interest in smacking down the Aunt Beas of the running world.

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 02:50 PM

Cooter, you are better than that
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I don't understand the distinction you're drawing.

S_A_M
I revised the post slightly, but I am distinguishing her general libertarian/anti-judicial activist bent rather than specific rulings. Certainly SS and OSHA should be done away with it, although I am not sure both of them are unconstitutional.

taxwonk 10-27-2005 03:06 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
What was done to the Japanese sucked and was wrong. No question. But that is a side issue.

The point is that during WWII, any German that might have Nazi sympathies was thrown into a concentration camp by the US government. In addition, Nazi sympathisers were interviewed and asked their political views during the 1930s when we were not at war. Not a complaint from the liberals.

During the Korean War, when American fighter planes were being shot down by Soviets, and we were fighting the Chinese communists on the ground and there was a massive espionage campaign by the Soviets in the United States, some hollywood employees had to face a committee and lost their jobs because of their affiliation with the communist party. A party that was siding with the North Koreans against the United State and was being run by Moscow. And this was the crime of the century? This was a witch hunt?

Nothing happened to these people. If they had worked for me I would have fired them and told everyone I knew not to hire them.
Yeah, that whole "freedom of speech," "right of association" business can be a damn nuisance, can't it?

Just out of curiosity, were your one of those people who nodded knowingly when Atty. Gen'l. Ed Meese dismissed the notion of due process with the pithy observation that "they" wouldn't be defendants if they weren't guilty, anyway?

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 03:11 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Yeah, that whole "freedom of speech," "right of association" business can be a damn nuisance, can't it?

Just out of curiosity, were your one of those people who nodded knowingly when Atty. Gen'l. Ed Meese dismissed the notion of due process with the pithy observation that "they" wouldn't be defendants if they weren't guilty, anyway?
I was, but I since changed my position on that one. As I matured I was witness to the rank corruption, incompetence, racism and general hate that is endemnic in most of our nation's police departments. Especially the ones in urban locales controlled by the DemOs. Of course, union (read: socialist) control of the police doesn't help.

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-27-2005 03:38 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I was, but I since changed my position on that one. As I matured I was witness to the rank corruption, incompetence, racism and general hate that is endemnic in most of our nation's police departments. Especially the ones in urban locales controlled by the DemOs. Of course, union (read: socialist) control of the police doesn't help.
These guys understand you have a problem with how they do their job, and they'd like to discuss it with you in fuller detail out back in about five minutes.

http://www.nypdblue.org/Images/rmacand.jpg

SlaveNoMore 10-27-2005 04:01 PM

Just Curious
 
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Sexual Harassment Panda
I really was unaware of much harping from the "Left", whomever is encompassed by that term.
From Yahoo lead article:

"Under withering attack from conservatives, President Bush abandoned his push to put loyalist Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court and promised a quick replacement Thursday. Democrats accused him of bowing to the "radical right wing of the Republican Party."

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There seemed to have been much greater and vocal opposition from the religious wingnuts, who were licking their chops over the possibility of a "final showdown" with the liberals over the SCOTUS nomination in the Senate.
This is utter bullshit. It was the wingnuts that wanted her in b/c she is an evangelical.

It was my guys - the federalist and originalists - that wanted her out.

SlaveNoMore 10-27-2005 04:06 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Not Bob
As you may not have noted from the wikpedia article:
[list]The House Committee on Un-American Activities grew from a special investigating committee established in May 1938, ... As to investigations into the activities of the "Klan," the Committee actually did little. When HUAC's chief counsel Ernest Adamson announced that: "The committee has decided that it lacks sufficient data on which to base a probe," committee member John E. Rankin added: "After all, the KKK is an old American institution." Instead of the Klan, HUAC concentrated on investigating the possibility that the American Communist Party had infiltrated the Works Progress Administration, including the Federal Theatre Project.
And thus Senator Byrd's career was saved

SlaveNoMore 10-27-2005 04:07 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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taxwonk
Yeah, that whole "freedom of speech," "right of association" business can be a damn nuisance, can't it?

Just out of curiosity, were your one of those people who nodded knowingly when Atty. Gen'l. Ed Meese dismissed the notion of due process with the pithy observation that "they" wouldn't be defendants if they weren't guilty, anyway?
Just out of curiousity, you havent been one of the peanut gallery folks calling Tom DeLay a crook, would you?

taxwonk 10-27-2005 04:12 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Just out of curiousity, you havent been one of the peanut gallery folks calling Tom DeLay a crook, would you?
No, I've just been one of the folks calling him a vicious venal thug and an asshole. Although, his admitted authorship of the racial gerrymandering of the Texas state legislative districts is a pretty flagrant violation of the Civil Rights Act.

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-27-2005 04:26 PM

Just Curious
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
From Yahoo lead article:

"Under withering attack from conservatives, President Bush abandoned his push to put loyalist Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court and promised a quick replacement Thursday. Democrats accused him of bowing to the "radical right wing of the Republican Party."
You call that "harping"? Hell, that's nothing compared to what the conservatives were saying. What's your label for the criticism by the federalists and originalists?


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This is utter bullshit. It was the wingnuts that wanted her in b/c she is an evangelical.

It was my guys - the federalist and originalists - that wanted her out.
I stand corrected. I should have said, "conservative wingnuts" rather than "religious wingnuts".

Gattigap 10-27-2005 04:49 PM

Just Curious
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
From Yahoo lead article:

"Under withering attack from conservatives, President Bush abandoned his push to put loyalist Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court and promised a quick replacement Thursday. Democrats accused him of bowing to the "radical right wing of the Republican Party."


It was my guys - the federalist and originalists - that wanted her out.
That's not harping because the Dems couldn't do it. That's a carefully aimed swing at Bush's nuts because he caved. Flip it, and tell me that the GOP wouldn've have done the same thing here.

"Your guys" were accompanied by some of the wingnuts too. One large wingnut organization announced opposition to her just yesterday, IIRC.

Spanky 10-27-2005 05:04 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I hate to interrupt the Board Historian's
I think you should apologise to all real historians for this comment.

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man

stirring defense of McCarthyism --
I was not defending McCarthysim, just pointing out that it was not all that big of a deal. Much worse political witch hunts happened this century with worse effect.

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
apparent disregard for (among other things) the fact that the Honorable Senator repeatedly flat-out fucking lied on the floor of the Senate for his own political gain.
A Senator lying on the floor of the Senate for his own political game? Yes - that never happens. Well at least not more than two or three times a day.

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
But . . . here is more from Spanky's friends at the DLC
Yay

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man (through my doppelganger Mr. Broder) on how Dems have to stop bitching and actually start to pony up to clean up the fiscal wreckage of the Bush years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...11.html?sub=AR

S_A_M
That is why you Dems need to donate more to the DLC.

Spanky 10-27-2005 05:09 PM

Proposition 2
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You guys do both realize that my penis is larger than yours, right?

S_A_M
And how do you know this?

Hank Chinaski 10-27-2005 05:10 PM

Proposition 2
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
And how do you know this?
it always get bigger when he reads a Penske post?

Spanky 10-27-2005 05:11 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Yeah, that whole "freedom of speech," "right of association" business can be a damn nuisance, can't it?

They can squawk all they want about a violent overthrow of the US government, and actively work for our enemies, but that doesn't mean I have to give them a job.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-27-2005 05:32 PM

Proposition 2
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
And how do you know this?
Hank's wife told me.

S_A_M

ltl/fb 10-27-2005 05:33 PM

Cronies.
 
http://www.cronyjobs.com/

"thanks to CronyJobs, I banned contraception that might have spared millions of slutty little whores the punitive agony of childbirth!"

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 06:02 PM

Cronies.
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
http://www.cronyjobs.com/

"thanks to CronyJobs, I banned contraception that might have spared millions of slutty little whores the punitive agony of childbirth!"
PLease keep this type of crap on the FB where it belongs. We are on topic here.

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 06:02 PM

Proposition 2
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Hank's wife told me.

S_A_M
2.

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 06:05 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
No, I've just been one of the folks calling him a vicious venal thug and an asshole.
Nice non-substantive PoPD. Did this come from the dimwits talking points memo? Odd how a party with people like the Clintons, Howard Dean, the Daleys and KuKluxKlanKleagle can criticise anyone as being a venally thuggish arsehole. I suppose that's worse than a rapist or murderer?

Gattigap 10-27-2005 06:08 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I suppose that's worse than a rapist or murderer?
And the drug-running. Don't forget the drug-running.

taxwonk 10-27-2005 06:30 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Nice non-substantive PoPD. Did this come from the dimwits talking points memo? Odd how a party with people like the Clintons, Howard Dean, the Daleys and KuKluxKlanKleagle can criticise anyone as being a venally thuggish arsehole. I suppose that's worse than a rapist or murderer?
I uxsed to live in his district, so I can speak from personal experience. Apparently all you can do these days is rant like some sort of paranoid schizophrenic. Do you need a friend to talk to?

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 06:49 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
And the drug-running. Don't forget the drug-running.
Interestingly, by my count a majority of people here seem to agree that there is something to the rape allegation. Is your mockery an indication that you think rape is excusable?? A joke?

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 06:51 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
I uxsed to live in his district, so I can speak from personal experience.

Did he touch you?


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Originally posted by taxwonk
Do you need a friend to talk to?

I miss Slave [sniff]

Gattigap 10-27-2005 07:18 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Interestingly, by my count a majority of people here seem to agree that there is something to the rape allegation. Is your mockery an indication that you think rape is excusable?? A joke?
I was focusing on the "murder" part of your post. Since we were apparently going with the momentum of the rhetoric, this was a reminder that cadence works best with threes.

"Rape, murder, drug-running."

See?

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 07:25 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
I was focusing on the "murder" part of your post. Since we were apparently going with the momentum of the rhetoric, this was a reminder that cadence works best with threes.

"Rape, murder, drug-running."

See?
Murderer refers to Kennedy. Interesting that you have so little regard for Ms. Kopechne's taken life, although once again the "it was really just about sex" exception must apply.

Gattigap 10-27-2005 07:29 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Murderer refers to Kennedy.
Ah. Well, of course. The brush is broad, indeed.

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 07:33 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Ah. Well, of course. The brush is broad, indeed.
what about demo-ism leads to these lives of violent criminality?

I can almost understand Whitewater or Hillary's commodities scam or Joe Kennedy Sr.'s illegal booze trafficking or fraudulent securities transactions, but murder, rape, serial sexual assault, what's up with that? Seems incongruent, no?

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 08:06 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
what about demo-ism leads to these lives of violent criminality?

I can almost understand Whitewater or Hillary's commodities scam or Joe Kennedy Sr.'s illegal booze trafficking or fraudulent securities transactions, but murder, rape, serial sexual assault, what's up with that? Seems incongruent, no?
Not at all my dear Mr. Pernske, they lack moral clarity and any recognition of the UMC. Ignorance is bliss.

Gattigap 10-27-2005 08:22 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
what about demo-ism leads to these lives of violent criminality?

I can almost understand Whitewater or Hillary's commodities scam or Joe Kennedy Sr.'s illegal booze trafficking or fraudulent securities transactions, but murder, rape, serial sexual assault, what's up with that? Seems incongruent, no?
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Not at all my dear Mr. Pernske, they lack moral clarity and any recognition of the UMC. Ignorance is bliss.

Oopsie!

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 08:24 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Oopsie!
Indeed. At least no one knows which sock I was intending to use.

Hank Chinaski 10-27-2005 09:21 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
I uxsed to live in his district, so I can speak from personal experience. Apparently all you can do these days is rant like some sort of paranoid schizophrenic. Do you need a friend to talk to?
Yes he does need a friend. Problem is that all the dems here aren't apparently eligible. Penske wants to talk to a friend who will tell him if he's behaving badly. he sees all you guys justifying Klan membership/ beach rape/ abuse of office rape/ drowning on the way to rape scene/etc., and he thinks:
  • can i really expect them to tell me I'm wrong?

Can you see his predicament?

Hank Chinaski 10-27-2005 09:22 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Indeed. At least no one knows which sock I was intending to use.
Spanky or maybe Ty@50

Penske_Account 10-27-2005 09:47 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Spanky or maybe Ty@50
Ty@51, but I lost the password. Maybe Ty@52 can come back in time and give it to me.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-27-2005 10:16 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Yes he does need a friend. Problem is that all the dems here aren't apparently eligible. Penske wants to talk to a friend who will tell him if he's behaving badly. he sees all you guys justifying Klan membership/ beach rape/ abuse of office rape/ drowning on the way to rape scene/etc., and he thinks:
  • can i really expect them to tell me I'm wrong?

Can you see his predicament?
If he really understood us, he'd know that OF COURSE we'd tell HIM when he's wrong. He's a Repooblican.

S_A_M

SlaveNoMore 10-27-2005 10:34 PM

Clement Moore aint got nothing on me
 
'Twas the Night before Fitzmas
And that noise that you hear
Is the harping of liberals
As Karl's in the clear

It seems only Libby will hang
And take all of the blame
For some nonexistant crime
Re Wilson. And Plame.

But law must prevail!
And perjury ain't right
So Merry Fitzmas to all
To all and good night

sgtclub 10-27-2005 11:14 PM

I have here in my hand a list of 242 card-carrying members . . .
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Indeed. At least no one knows which sock I was intending to use.
That or Gatti is your sock


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